The Ultimate problem!

A particle with specific charge q/m \text{q/m} moves in the region of space where there are uniform mutually perpendicular electric and magnetic fields with strength E (along y y axis) and magnetic field B (along z z -axis). It had zero initial velocity and was located at the origin. For non-relativistic case, find the law of motion x ( t ) x(t) and y ( t ) y(t) of the particle and hence, the shape of the trajectory.

Define
- P P as the ratio of the area of the figure made with the x x -axis when it again touches the x x -axis,
- Q Q as the length of the "arch" of that section of the figure,
- R R as the angular speed at which it reaches.

If the value of P Q × R \frac{P}{Q\times R} equals to

a π m b E c q d B e f \displaystyle \frac{a\pi {m}^{b}{E}^{c}{q}^{d}{B}^{e}}{f}

give your answer as a + b + c + d + e + f \displaystyle a + b + c + d + e + f .


The answer is 9.

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1 solution

Kartik Sharma
Jun 11, 2015

This is not essentially a EM problem save the start, it's all mathematics as you will see.

First, take the Lorentz force i.e.

F = q ( E + v × B ) \displaystyle F = q(E + v\times B)

Taking x-component first,

F x = q ( E x + v y B z v z B y ) \displaystyle {F}_{x} = q({E}_{x} + {v}_{y}{B}_{z} - {v}_{z}{B}_{y})

In this case,

m d 2 x d t 2 = q ( 0 + d y d t B 0 ) \displaystyle m\frac{{d}^{2}x}{d{t}^{2}} = q(0 + \frac{dy}{dt}B - 0)

= d 2 x d t 2 = q B m d y d t \displaystyle = \frac{{d}^{2}x}{d{t}^{2}} = \frac{qB}{m}\frac{dy}{dt}

We will just write

x q B m y = 0 \displaystyle x'' - \frac{qB}{m}y' = 0

Now, taking y-component,

F y = q ( E y + v z B x v x B z ) \displaystyle {F}_{y} = q({E}_{y} + {v}_{z}{B}_{x} - {v}_{x}{B}_{z})

In this case,

d 2 y d t 2 = q m ( E d x d t B ) \displaystyle \frac{{d}^{2}y}{d{t}^{2}} = \frac{q}{m}(E - \frac{dx}{dt}B)

We will just write

y + q B m x q E m = 0 \displaystyle y'' + \frac{qB}{m}x' - \frac{qE}{m} = 0

Hence, we have got our 2 DEs in 2 variables.

We will "mix" the 2 DEs together so that it becomes easy to find the answer.

To ease writing, let q B m = ω \frac{qB}{m} = \omega

We know

x ω y = 0 \displaystyle x'' - \omega y' = 0

Hence, x = ω y \displaystyle x' = \omega y

Just substitute this in the 2nd DE,

y + ω 2 y q E m = 0 \displaystyle y'' + {\omega}^{2}y - \frac{qE}{m} = 0

Now, we can write q E m = ω 2 × m E q B 2 \frac{qE}{m} = {\omega}^{2}\times \frac{mE}{q{B}^{2}} , hence, we will let m E q B 2 = c \frac{mE}{q{B}^{2}} = c

Then,

y + ω 2 y ω 2 c = 0 \displaystyle y'' + {\omega}^{2}y - {\omega}^{2}c = 0 is our 2nd order ODE for y.

One can find solutions for it in many ways - Probably with Lagrangian or some other transform(I don't have much knowledge there). So, here we will just guess the solution.

We know that ω 2 c {\omega}^{2}c is a constant and would be cancelled by its additive inverse, which must come from the y y term since for it to come from y y'' term would create complications. Let's just keep it simple.

Then, it must be that y y'' term must be cancelled by the rest y y term. And our first guess must be that y y looks something like c d c o s ( ω t ) c - dcos(\omega t) since then its double derivative would come ω 2 d c o s ( ω t ) {\omega}^{2}dcos(\omega t) which will cancel our rest in y term.

let's just keep it simple and

y = c ( 1 c o s ( ω t ) \displaystyle y = c(1 - cos(\omega t)

As a result x = c ω ( 1 c o s ( ω t ) ) \displaystyle x' = c\omega(1-cos(\omega t)) \Rightarrow x = c ( ω t s i n ( ω t ) ) \displaystyle x = c(\omega t - sin(\omega t))

We have got equations for cycloid!!!

We can see now that for the trajectory to come back to x-axis, "circle of it" must traverse 2 π 2\pi in y-axis w.r.t x-axis or

Area = ω t = 0 ω t = 2 π y d x = 0 2 π c 2 ( 1 c o s ( ω t ) ) 2 = 3 π c 2 \displaystyle \text{Area} = \int_{\omega t=0}^{\omega t=2\pi}{y dx} = \int_{0}^{2\pi}{{c}^{2}{(1 - cos(\omega t))}^{2}} = 3\pi{c}^{2}

Length = ω t = 0 ω t = 2 π ( d y d t ) 2 + ( d x d t ) 2 d ω t = 8 c \displaystyle \text{Length} = \int_{\omega t = 0}^{\omega t =2\pi}{\sqrt{{\left(\frac{dy}{dt}\right)}^{2} + {\left(\frac{dx}{dt}\right)}^{2}} d\omega t} = 8c

And it is obvious that ω \omega is the angular velocity.

So our final answer becomes

3 π c 2 8 c ( ω ) = 3 π c 8 ω \displaystyle \frac{3\pi {c}^{2}}{8c(\omega)} = \frac{3\pi c}{8\omega}

Substitute values for c = m E q B 2 , ω = q B m \displaystyle c = \frac{mE}{q{B}^{2}}, \omega = \frac{qB}{m}

3 π m E q B 2 8 q B m = 3 π m 2 E 8 q 2 B 3 \displaystyle \frac{3 \pi \frac{mE}{q{B}^{2}}}{8 \frac{qB}{m}} = \frac{3 \pi {m}^{2}E}{8{q}^{2}{B}^{3}}

3 π m 2 E 1 q 2 B 3 8 \displaystyle \frac{3 \pi {m}^{2}{E}^{1}{q}^{-2}{B}^{-3}}{8}

Beautiful problem and a good solution too! +1

Samarpit Swain - 6 years ago

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Thanks! ¨ \ddot \smile The problem's idea is taken from Irodov and the solution is original.

Kartik Sharma - 6 years ago

What was your approach?

Kartik Sharma - 6 years ago

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Essentially the same as yours

Samarpit Swain - 6 years ago

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