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Algebra Level 3

x 4 + y 4 x 4 y 4 + x 4 y 4 x 4 + y 4 \dfrac {x^{4}+y^{4}}{x^{4}-y^{4}} + \dfrac {x^{4}-y^{4}}{x^{4}+y^{4}}

If x + y x y + x y x + y = 1 , \dfrac {x+y}{x-y} + \dfrac {x-y}{x+y} = 1, then the value of the expression above can be expressed as a b \dfrac {a}{b} , where a a and b b are coprime positive integers.

What is the value of a + b a+b ?


The answer is 61.

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2 solutions

Eli Ross Staff
Feb 11, 2016

Expanding the given equation with a common denominator, we have 2 x 2 + y 2 x 2 y 2 = 1 , 2\cdot \frac{x^2 +y^2}{x^2-y^2} = 1, so 2 + 1 2 = 5 2 = x 2 y 2 x 2 + y 2 + x 2 + y 2 x 2 y 2 = 2 x 4 + y 4 x 4 y 4 . 2 + \frac{1}{2} = \frac{5}{2} =\frac{x^2-y^2}{x^2+y^2} + \frac{x^2+y^2}{x^2-y^2} = 2\cdot \frac{x^4+y^4}{x^4-y^4}. Thus, the answer is 5 / 2 2 + 2 5 / 2 = 41 20 , \frac{5/2}{2}+\frac{2}{5/2} = \frac{41}{20}, so 41 + 20 = 61. 41+20=61.

i have a doubt,i solved it by comparing the numerator and denominator by 1 and 2 after reducing the LHS and still got the answer. but is it the correct procedure ?

will jain - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Can you explain your procedure in more detail?

Eli Ross Staff - 5 years, 3 months ago
Priyanshu Mishra
Feb 12, 2016

I really appreciate Sir Eli Ross's solution becuase it very perfect.

My solution is here-

We can rewrite the 2 2 nd equation as

( x + y ) 2 + ( x y ) 2 x 2 y 2 = 1 \huge\ \frac { { (x + y) }^{ 2 } + { (x - y) }^{ 2 } }{ { x }^{ 2 } - { y }^{ 2 } } = 1

i.e., x = y 3 x = y\sqrt { 3 } .

Putting this in the equation whose value is to be found, we get

9 y 4 + y 4 9 y 4 y 4 + 9 y 4 y 4 9 y 4 + y 4 = 10 y 4 8 y 4 + 8 y 4 10 y 4 = 5 4 + 4 5 = 41 20 = a b \huge\ \frac { 9{ y }^{ 4 } + { y }^{ 4 } }{ 9{ y }^{ 4 } - { y }^{ 4 } } + \frac { 9{ y }^{ 4 } - { y }^{ 4 } }{ 9{ y }^{ 4 } + { y }^{ 4 } } = \frac { 10{ y }^{ 4 } }{ 8{ y }^{ 4 } } + \frac { 8{ y }^{ 4 } }{ 10{ y }^{ 4 } } = \frac { 5 }{ 4 } + \frac { 4 }{ 5 } = \frac { 41 }{ 20 } = \frac {a}{b} .

Thus a + b = 61 a + b = \boxed{61} .

Are you sure x=√3y? Your answer maybe correct because x^4 is definitely 9y^4 but I don't think x=√3y

Kushagra Sahni - 5 years, 4 months ago

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I am not understanding what you want to say.

Priyanshu Mishra - 5 years, 4 months ago

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I want to say that you are wrong. Check Again. Your relation between x and y is wrong. Solve the 1st equation again.

Kushagra Sahni - 5 years, 3 months ago

@Priyanshu Mishra x 2 = 3 y 2 x^2=-3y^2 not x = 3 y x=\sqrt{3}y

Ravi Dwivedi - 5 years, 3 months ago

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