They cannot be the same!

Algebra Level 3

x x = y y \large x^x = y^y In the equation above, x x and y y are positive real numbers that are not equal to each other.

Given that y = 0.225 y = 0.225 , what must x x be?


The answer is 0.532349726242.

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1 solution

James Watson
Aug 25, 2020

If you like tetration or unfamiliar functions, check out my notes on differentiating tetrations: here and here . You may find them interesting :) Also, let me know if you liked them so that I can do more stuff. Anyway, onto the solution!

Notations:

  • W ( ) W(\cdot) denotes the product log (aka Lambert W Function)
  • ssrt ( ) \text{ssrt}(\cdot) denotes the super square root which is discussed in this solution

x x x^x and y y y^y can be written as 2 x {^{2}x} and 2 y {^{2}y} . We can take the super square root of these two and we can see that x = ssrt ( y y ) = e W ( y ln y ) = y ln y W ( y ln y ) x = \text{ssrt}(y^y) = \boxed{e^{W(y\ln y)}} = \boxed{\frac{y\ln y}{W(y\ln y)}} But hold up, what is a "super square root"? Don't worry, I will show you:

Let x x = k x^x = k where k k is some number. We can take the natural log on both sides here to get x ln x = ln k x\ln x = \ln k . From here, we can use the fact that x = e ln x x = e^{\ln x} : x ln x = ln k ln ( x ) e ln ( x ) = ln k x\ln x = \ln k \implies \ln(x)e^{\ln(x)} = \ln k Since the coefficient and exponent of e e are the same here, we can use the product log: ln ( x ) e ln ( x ) = ln k ln x = W ( ln k ) x = e W ( ln k ) = ln k W ( ln k ) \begin{aligned} \blue{\ln(x)}e^{\blue{\ln(x)}} = \ln k \implies \blue{\ln x} &= W(\ln k) \\ \implies x &= \boxed{e^{W(\ln k)}} = \boxed{\frac{\ln k}{W(\ln k)}}\end{aligned} Since we are solving for x x and x x is in the form x x x^x or 2 x {^{2}x} , we can say that we are taking the "super square root" of x x x^x or 2 x {^{2}x} , hence it is equal to what is shown above.

So finally, since we know that y = 0.225 y = 0.225 , we can plug 0.225 0.225 in and we see that x = e W ( 0.225 ln ( 0.225 ) ) = 0.225 ln ( 0.225 ) W ( 0.225 ln ( 0.225 ) ) 0.532349726242 x=\green{\boxed{e^{W(0.225\ln(0.225))}}} = \green{\boxed{\frac{0.225\ln(0.225)}{W(0.225\ln(0.225))}}} \approx \green{\boxed{0.532349726242}}

Also, the reason why e W ( k ) = k W ( k ) e^{W(k)} = \cfrac{k}{W(k)} is because of this:

Since W ( k ) e W ( k ) = k W(k)e^{W(k)} = k , we can divide by W ( k ) W(k) to get e W ( k ) = k W ( k ) e^{W(k)} = \cfrac{k}{W(k)}

Just incase anyone was confused/interested why this is the case :)

James Watson - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

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