Think about a triangle

Algebra Level 5

{ a 2 + a b + b 2 = 25 b 2 + b c + c 2 = 49 c 2 + c a + a 2 = 64 \large\ \begin{cases} a^2 + ab + b ^ 2 & = 25 \\ b^2 + bc + c^2 & = 49 \\ c^2 + ca + a^2 & = 64 \end{cases}

a , b , c a,b,c are positive reals that satisfy the system of equations above.

Find the value of ( a + b + c ) 2 (a+b+c)^2 .


The answer is 129.

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Rewriting the equations,

( a + b ) 2 a b = 25 \left(a+b\right)^2-ab=25

( b + c ) 2 b c = 49 \left(b+c\right)^2-bc=49

( a + c ) 2 a c = 64 \left(a+c\right)^2-ac=64

Now subtracting 1 1 from 2 2 , 2 2 from 3 3 , and 1 1 from 3 3 ,

( a + b + c ) ( c a ) = 24 \left(a+b+c\right)\left(c-a\right)=24

( a + b + c ) ( a b ) = 15 \left(a+b+c\right)\left(a-b\right)=15

( a + b + c ) ( c b ) = 39 \left(a+b+c\right)\left(c-b\right)=39

Hence, we have:

24 c a = 15 a b = 39 c b 8 c a = 5 a b = 13 c b 8 c a = 5 a b 64 a 2 + c 2 2 a c = 25 a 2 + b 2 2 a b 64 a 2 + c 2 + a c 3 a c = 25 a 2 + b 2 + a b 3 a b 64 64 3 a c = 25 25 3 a b \frac{24}{c-a}=\frac{15}{a-b}=\frac{39}{c-b} \implies \frac{8}{c-a}=\frac{5}{a-b}=\frac{13}{c-b} \implies \frac{8}{c-a}=\frac{5}{a-b} \implies \frac{64}{a^2+c^2-2ac}=\frac{25}{a^2+b^2-2ab} \implies \frac{64}{a^2+c^2+ac-3ac}=\frac{25}{a^2+b^2+ab-3ab} \implies \frac{64}{64-3ac}=\frac{25}{25-3ab}

Cross multipltying, we have 64 b = 25 c c = 64 b 25 64b=25c \implies c=\frac{64b}{25}

Substituting 64 b 25 \frac{64b}{25} in (2), we have:

( b + 64 b 25 ) 2 64 b 2 25 = 49 b = 25 129 \left(b+\frac{64b}{25}\right)^2-\frac{64b^2}{25}=49 \implies b=\frac{25}{\sqrt{129}} (b is a positive real)

c = 64 b 25 = 64 25 25 129 = 64 129 c=\frac{64b}{25}=\frac{64}{25}\cdot \frac{25}{\sqrt{129}}=\frac{64}{\sqrt{129}}

Substituting c = 64 129 c=\frac{64}{\sqrt{129}} in (3), we have a = 40 129 a=\frac{40}{\sqrt{129}} (a is a positive real)

Hence, ( a + b + c ) 2 = ( 40 129 + 25 129 + 64 129 ) 2 = ( 129 129 ) 2 = 129 \left(a+b+c\right)^2=\left(\frac{40}{\sqrt{129}}+\frac{25}{\sqrt{129}}+\frac{64}{\sqrt{129}}\right)^2=\left(\frac{129}{\sqrt{129}}\right)^2=\boxed{129}

Squaring the the equation 8 c a = 5 a b \frac{8}{c-a}=\frac{5}{a-b} was an excellent idea! Nice solution!

James Wilson - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Thanks! :D

Arkajyoti Banerjee - 3 years, 4 months ago

Please explain the cross multiplying step

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 6 months ago

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64 64 3 a c = 25 25 3 a b 64 25 64 3 a b = 25 64 25 3 a c 64 3 a b = 25 3 a c 64 b = 25 c \frac{64}{64-3ac} = \frac{25}{25-3ab} \implies 64 \cdot 25-64 \cdot 3ab=25 \cdot 64-25 \cdot 3ac \implies 64\cdot 3ab=25\cdot 3ac \implies \boxed{64b=25c}

Arkajyoti Banerjee - 4 years, 5 months ago
Mark Hennings
Nov 18, 2016

Consider a triangle A B C ABC with sides A B = 5 , B C = 7 , A C = 8 AB=5,\,BC=7,\,AC=8 , and let P P be the Steiner point inside the triangle which subtends an angle of 12 0 120^\circ with each pair of the points A , B , C A,B,C . Note that P P can be constructed by constructing the equilateral triangle A B X ABX , in which case P P is the point of intersection (other than X X ) of the line C X CX with the circumcircle of A B X ABX . Suppose that a = A P a = AP , b = B P b = BP and c = C P c = CP . Applying the Cosine Rule to each of the triangles A B P , B C P , A C P ABP,\,BCP,\,ACP shows that a , b , c a,b,c satisfy the desired identities.

Rotate the triangle A B P ABP through 6 0 60^\circ clockwise about the point A A to form the triangle A X P AXP' . Note that P P' lies on the line X C XC . Then A P P APP' is equilateral, and it is clear that a + b + c = A P + B P + C P = P P + P X + C P = C X a + b + c \; = \; AP + BP + CP \; = \; PP' + P'X + CP \;= \; CX

Set up a coordinate system so that A A has coordinates ( 0 , 0 ) (0,0) and B B has coordinates ( 5 , 0 ) (5,0) . Then X X has coordinates ( 5 2 , 5 2 3 ) (\tfrac52,-\tfrac52\sqrt{3}) . Using the Cosine rule on the triangle A B C ABC , we see that C A B = 6 0 \angle CAB = 60^\circ , and so C C has coordinates ( 4 , 4 3 ) (4,4\sqrt{3}) . Thus ( a + b + c ) 2 = C X 2 = ( 3 2 ) 2 + ( 13 2 3 ) 2 = 129 . (a + b + c)^2 \; = \; CX^2 \; = \; \left(\tfrac32\right)^2 + \left(\tfrac{13}{2}\sqrt{3}\right)^2 \; = \; \boxed{129} \;. Alternatively, we could apply the Cosine Rule to the triangle C A X CAX , with C A X = 12 0 \angle CAX = 120^\circ , to show that C X 2 = 129 CX^2 = 129 .

Extra ordinary solution.

Can you explain what the steiner point means?

Priyanshu Mishra - 4 years, 6 months ago

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It is the point P P that subtends an angle of 12 0 120^\circ with each pair of the vertices A , B , C A,B,C . It is also the point that minimizes the sum P A + P B + P C PA+PB+PC of the distances to the vertices. For a triangle such as this, it is also known as the first Fermat point of the triangle.

Mark Hennings - 4 years, 6 months ago

As elegant as this solution seems, it is quite time consuming and will require a graph, assuming we are obtaining a hand written solution.

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 5 months ago

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Well, the construction of the Steiner point P P is a matter of bookwork. I took the time to prove the bookwork here. Given the bookwork, it is only necessary to determine the coordinates of X X and hence calculate the length C X CX .

The equations can be solved by purely algebraic means, of course, but that means that you do not get the geometric insight into what is going on here.

Mark Hennings - 3 years, 5 months ago

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