Three 3's

Find the largest integer N N for which N 3 N - 3 evenly divides N 3 3 N^3 - 3 .


The answer is 27.

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11 solutions

Francis Naldo
Sep 22, 2013

FIrst. divide both of them..

N 3 3 N 3 \frac{ N^{3} - 3 }{ N -3 }

which is equal to

N 2 N^{2} + 3N + 9 24 N 3 \frac{24}{ N - 3 }

then for the quotient to be an integer, the remainder should be transformed to an integer..

thus, 24 N 3 \frac{24}{ N - 3 } => 24 = N - 3 => N = 27

You have not mentioned anywhere why you straightaway take 24 = N 3 24\;=N-3 , in particular the largest value of N N is obtained when. Otherwise an error-free solution............

Nishant Sharma - 7 years, 8 months ago
Sebastian Puerto
Sep 22, 2013

We know that N 3 3 3 = N 3 27 = ( N 3 ) ( N 2 + 3 N + 3 2 ) N^3 - 3^3 = N^3 - 27 = (N-3)(N^2 +3N +3^2) .

So N 3 N 3 27 N-3 | N^3 - 27 and we are told that N 3 N 3 3 N-3 | N^3 - 3 so, N 3 N-3 divides any liner combination of N 3 27 N^3 - 27 and N 3 3 N^3 - 3 , in particular N 3 24 N - 3 | 24 .

Now, obviously the largest number that divides 24 is 24 itself, and that means that N = 27 N = 27 .

Russell Few
Sep 23, 2013

Note that N 3 N-3 evenly divides ( N 3 ) ( N 2 + 3 x 9 ) = N 3 27 (N-3)(N^2+3x-9)=N^3-27 .

Hence, N 3 N-3 must evenly divide ( N 3 3 ) ( N 3 27 ) = 24 (N^3-3)-(N^3-27)=24 .

The largest number that divides 24 24 is 24 24 , so N 3 N-3 is at most 24 24 . Hence, N N is at most 27 27 .

If we have N = 27 N=27 , then N 3 = 27 3 = 24 N-3=27-3=24 and N 3 3 = 2 7 3 3 = 19683 3 = 19680 N^3-3=27^3-3=19683-3=19680 . 19680 24 = 820 \frac{19680}{24}=820 , which is an integer.

Hence, the maximum possible value of N N such that N 3 N-3 evenly divides N 3 3 N^3-3 is 27 \boxed{27} .

Alex Porush
Sep 24, 2013

If N 3 N-3 evenly divides N 3 3 N^{3}-3 , and N N is an integer, then

( N 3 ) c = N 3 3 (N-3) * c =N^{3}-3 for some integer c c .

If we divide N 3 3 N^{3}-3 by N 3 N-3 using long division, we get

N 2 + 3 N + 9 + 24 N 3 N^{2} + 3N + 9 + \frac{24}{N-3}

Clearly N 2 + 3 N + 9 N^{2} + 3N + 9 is an integer since N N is an integer, and so we only need to worry about 24 N 3 \frac{24}{N-3} being an integer, which is true when 24 24 is divisible by N 3 N-3 . The largest factor of 24 24 is 24 24 , so N 3 = 24 N-3=24 .

Hence N = 27 \boxed{N=27}

Rithvik Pasumarty
Sep 27, 2013

Once we use synthetic division to compute N 3 3 N 3 \frac{N^3-3}{N-3} , we get N 3 + 3 N + 9 + 24 N 3 N^3+3N+9+\frac{24}{N-3}

Here we can see that N N is maximized when 24 N 3 \frac{24}{N-3} is minimized(for integers) So we let 24 N 3 = 1 \frac{24}{N-3}=1

Thus we get the largest integer N N for which N 3 N-3 evenly divides N 3 3 N^3-3 as 27 \boxed{27}

Ananay Agarwal
Sep 24, 2013

Let us say that some k k satisfies the conditions. By the Euclidean Algorithm:

( k 3 ) ( k 2 + 3 k + 9 ) + 24 = k 3 3 (k-3)(k^2 + 3k + 9) + 24 = k^3 - 3

Therefore, if ( k 3 ) k 3 3 , ( k 3 ) 24 (k-3)|k^3 - 3, (k-3)|24 . The largest divisor of 24 24 is 24 24 . Therefore, our required number is 27 27 .

Ankit Chabarwal
Sep 24, 2013

N 3 N^{3} - 3 3 = ( N 3 ) × ( N 2 + 3 N + 9 ) (N-3) \times (N^{2}+3N +9) + 24 24

Clearly when N=27 then RHS divides LHS with highest quotient

Kumar Ashutosh
Sep 23, 2013

We have to find N N such that N 3 3 N 3 = k \frac{N^3-3}{N-3} =k , where k k is an integer. Now N 3 3 N 3 = N 3 27 + 24 N 3 = N 3 3 3 + 24 N 3 = N 3 3 3 N 3 + 24 N 3 \frac{N^3-3}{N-3} = \frac{N^3-27+24}{N-3} = \frac{N^3-3^3+24}{N-3} = \frac{N^3-3^3}{N-3}+\frac{24}{N-3} . And N 3 3 3 = ( N 3 ) ( N 2 + 3 N + 9 ) N^3-3^3=(N-3)(N^2+3N+9) . So the equation reduces to N 2 + 3 N + 9 + 24 N 3 N^2+3N+9+\frac{24}{N-3} is integer if 24 N 3 \frac{24}{N-3} is an integer. So maximum value of N turns out to be 27 because if N 27 N \geq 27 the fraction becomes proper and hence is not integer for any value of N

how do you write that kind

vaishnav garg - 7 years, 8 months ago

Vaishnav, what kind are you referring to? Which part of the solution is not clear to you?

Kumar Ashutosh - 7 years, 8 months ago

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He may be referring to how you write Latex in general.

Alex Porush - 7 years, 8 months ago

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There are some basic commands of Latex using which I write the solutions. It can be viewed here: Formatting guide

Kumar Ashutosh - 7 years, 8 months ago
Luuk Weyers
Sep 23, 2013

N 3 N 3 3 < = > N 3 3 = 0 N-3 | N^3-3 <=> N^3 -3 = 0 mod N 3 N-3

< = > N 3 = 3 <=> N^3 = 3 mod N 3 N-3

Substitute N-3 with M to get: ( M + 3 ) 3 = 3 (M+3)^3 = 3 mod M M

<=> M 3 + 9 M 2 + 27 M + 27 = 3 M^3 + 9M^2 + 27M + 27 = 3 mod M M

<=> 27 = 3 27 = 3 mod M M

The maximum value of M M for which this holds is M = 24 M=24 , which gives N = 27 N=27 as solution to the problem.

Andrew Huang
Nov 18, 2013

The problem gives us the problem N^{3}-3/N-3. We can simplify this using synthetic division. [example link] (http://www.purplemath.com/modules/synthdiv.htm)

Through synthetic division we can simplify this even more and we get that the quotient is N^{2}+3N+9+24/N-3. Every part of this expression will give an integer value except for the 24/N-3. For it to be the maximum integer value, we set 24/N-3 = 1 because if it equals less than one it will not be an integer value. We get N=27, which is the answer.

Julio Reyes
Sep 26, 2013

Given an integer n and positive integer d , there exist unique integers q and r such that, n = q d + r n = q \cdot d + r and 0 r < d 0 \leq r < d . Where q is the quotient, d is the divisor, and r is the remainder.

So we can think of the problem as ( N 3 3 ) = q ( N 3 ) ( N 3 3 ) ( N 3 ) = q (N^3 -3) = q \cdot (N - 3) \quad \Rightarrow \quad \frac {(N^3-3)}{(N - 3)} = q \quad where q Z \quad q \in \mathbb{Z} \\

This means we have to find a value for N such that N 3 N-3 is a factor of N 3 3 N^3-3 . However, there is more than one value that satisfies that condition, and what the largest value is, is not clear from the expression.

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Our next step is to do some polynomial long division.

\begin{aligned} \renewcommand\arraystretch{2} \begin{array}{r@{\hskip\arraycolsep}c@{\hskip\arraycolsep}l*2r} &\underline{\mspace{20mu}N^2 + 3N + 9} \mspace{30mu} \\ N - 3& \Big )\mspace{10mu} N^3 - 3 \mspace{80mu} \\ & \underline{-(N^3 - 3N^2)} \mspace{50mu} \\ & 3N^2 - 3 \mspace{73mu} \\ & \underline{-(3N^2 - 9N)} \mspace{50mu} \\ & 9N - 3 \mspace{80mu} \\ & \underline{-(9N-27)} \mspace{63mu} \\ & 24 \mspace{70mu} \\ \end{array} \end{aligned} \\ \mbox{}

Now our expression looks like:

N 2 + 3 N + 9 + 24 N 3 = q N^2 + 3N + 9 + {24 \over N - 3} = q \\

Let k = N 2 + 3 N + 9 \quad k = N^2 +3N + 9 \quad where k Z \quad k \in \mathbb{Z} \quad

We can do this since integers are closed under multiplication and addition.

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Now we have the expression:

k + 24 N 3 = q k + {24 \over N -3 } = q \quad \\

Both k and q are integers. All that is left is to find the largest integer N that will still produce an integer from 24 N 3 24 \over N -3 .

To reduce a fraction to an integer, the denominator has to be a factor of the numerator. The largest factor of the numerator is 24 . So to solve the problem, we have to find N such that N-3 is equal to 24 .

\mspace 1 m u N 3 = 24 N = 27 \\ \mspace{1mu} \\ N - 3 = 24 \quad \Rightarrow \quad \therefore N = 27

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