Three Lines, Three Circles

Geometry Level 5

Lines l , m , n l, m, n in the same plane are such that l m = A , l \cap m = A, m n = B , m \cap n = B, l n = C , l \cap n = C, and A B C . A \neq B \neq C. The three circles that are tangent to l , m , l, m, and n n but not in the interior of A B C ABC have radii 3 , 4 , 3, 4, and 5. 5. If A B + B C + C A = p q , AB + BC + CA = p\sqrt{q}, for positive integers p p and q q such that q q is not divisible by the square of any prime, find p + q . p+q.

Notes:

Assume that such a configuration described in the problem is possible.

a b a \cap b means the intersection of lines a a and b . b.

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The answer is 49.

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2 solutions

Steven Yuan
Dec 14, 2014

It is clear that the circles described in the problem are the excircles of A B C . ABC. Let r a , r_{a}, r b , r_{b}, and r c r_{c} be the radii of these excircles. It can be proven that

r a r b + r b r c + r c r a = s 2 , r_{a}r_{b} + r_{b}r_{c} + r_{c}r_{a} = s^{2},

where s s represents the semiperimeter of A B C . ABC. Plugging our radii lengths in, we get

s 2 = 3 ( 4 ) + 4 ( 5 ) + 5 ( 3 ) s 2 = 47 s = 47 A B + B C + C A 2 = 47 A B + B C + C A = 2 47 . \begin{aligned} s^{2} &= 3(4) + 4(5) + 5(3) \\ s^{2} &= 47 \\ s &= \sqrt{47} \\ \frac{AB + BC + CA}{2} &= \sqrt{47} \\ AB + BC + CA &= 2\sqrt{47}. \end{aligned}

Thus, p = 2 p = 2 , q = 47 q = 47 , and p + q = 49 . p+q = \boxed{49}.

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A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years, 5 months ago

Steven, @Michael Enright would like to know how you arrived at the formula

r a r b + r b r c + r c r a = s 2 r_a r_b + r_b r_c + r_c r_a = s^2

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@Calvin Lin @Michael Enright : Here it is.

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First, we will prove that

[ A B C ] = r a ( s a ) , [ABC] = r_a (s - a),

where [ A B C ] [ABC] is the area of A B C ABC , r a r_a is the radius of the A-excircle, and s s is the semiperimeter. (Skip to the black square if you want to get to the main proof.)

Let X X be the tangent point of the A-excircle with B C BC , as shown above. Also, let B 1 B_1 be the tangent to A B AB and C 1 C_1 be the tangent to A C AC .

We will find the area of A B C ABC as the area of right triangles A B 1 I A AB_1I_A and A C 1 I A AC_1I_A minus the area of B 1 B C C 1 I A B_1BCC_1I_A .

First, B X = s c BX = s - c and C X = s b CX = s - b , as shown in this wiki . Because tangents from a point to a circle are equal, we also have B B 1 = s c BB_1 = s - c and C C 1 = s b CC_1 = s - b . Thus, A B 1 = s = A C 1 AB_1 = s = AC_1 and

[ A B 1 I A ] + [ A C 1 I A ] = ( A B 1 ) ( B 1 I A ) + ( A C 1 ) ( C 1 I A ) 2 = s r a + s r a 2 = s r a . \begin{aligned} [AB_1I_A] + [AC_1I_A] &= \frac{(AB_1)(B_1I_A) + (AC_1)(C_1I_A)}{2} \\ &= \frac{sr_a + sr_a}{2} \\ &= sr_a . \end{aligned}

To find [ B 1 B C C 1 I A ] [B_1BCC_1I_A] , we note that B X I A B B 1 I A \triangle BXI_A \cong \triangle BB_1I_A and C X I A C C 1 I A \triangle CXI_A \cong \triangle CC_1I_A . So,

[ B 1 B C C 1 I A ] = [ B X I A ] + [ B B 1 I A ] + [ C X I A ] + [ C C 1 I A ] = 2 ( [ B X I A ] + [ C X I A ] ) = 2 [ B C I A ] = a r a . \begin{aligned} [B_1BCC_1I_A] &= [BXI_A] + [BB_1I_A] + [CXI_A] + [CC_1I_A] \\ &= 2([BXI_A] + [CXI_A]) \\ &= 2[BCI_A] \\ &= ar_a. \end{aligned}

Finally,

[ A B C ] = [ A B 1 I A ] + [ A C 1 I A ] [ B 1 B C C 1 I A ] = s r a a r a = r a ( s a ) , \begin{aligned} [ABC] &= [AB_1I_A] + [AC_1I_A] - [B_1BCC_1I_A] \\ &= sr_a - ar_a \\ &= r_a(s - a), \end{aligned}

as desired. \blacksquare

We have r a = [ A B C ] s a r_a = \frac{[ABC]}{s - a} . Similarly, r b = [ A B C ] s b r_b = \frac{[ABC]}{s - b} and r c = [ A B C ] s c r_c = \frac{[ABC]}{s - c} . Also, [ A B C ] = s ( s a ) ( s b ) ( s c ) [ABC] = \sqrt{s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)} .

Thus, we have

r a r b + r b r c + r c r a = [ A B C ] 2 ( s a ) ( s b ) + [ A B C ] 2 ( s b ) ( s c ) + [ A B C ] 2 ( s c ) ( s a ) = ( ( s c ) + ( s a ) + ( s b ) ) [ A B C ] 2 ( s a ) ( s b ) ( s c ) = ( 3 s 2 s ) ( s ( s a ) ( s b ) ( s c ) ) ( s a ) ( s b ) ( s c ) = s 2 . \begin{aligned} r_ar_b + r_br_c + r_cr_a &= \frac{[ABC]^2}{(s-a)(s-b)} + \frac{[ABC]^2}{(s-b)(s-c)} + \frac{[ABC]^2}{(s-c)(s-a)} \\ &= \frac{((s-c) + (s-a) + (s-b))[ABC]^2}{(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)} \\ &= \frac{(3s - 2s)(s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c))}{(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)} \\ &= s^2 . \end{aligned}

Steven Yuan - 6 years, 3 months ago

Did the same way.

Niranjan Khanderia - 3 years ago
Md Rahman
Apr 29, 2015

s^2=r1r2+r2r3+r3r1

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