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Algebra Level 3

Let z = a + b i z=a+bi , z = 5 |z|=5 , and b > 0 b>0 . If the distance between ( 1 + 2 i ) z 3 (1+2i)z^3 and z 5 z^5 is as large as possible, then determine z 4 z^4 . Give your answer as the sum of the real and imaginary parts of z 4 z^4 .


The answer is 125.

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4 solutions

Otto Bretscher
May 5, 2015

Beautiful problem!

To make the distance maximal, we want the two numbers to point in opposite directions in the complex plane: z 5 = k ( 1 + 2 i ) z 3 z^5=-k(1+2i)z^3 for some positive k k . Dividing by z 3 z^3 we find z 2 = k ( 1 + 2 i ) z^2=-k(1+2i) . We take the modulus on both sides to find z 2 = 25 = k 5 |z|^2=25=k\sqrt{5} , so k = 125 k=\sqrt{125} and z 2 = 125 ( 1 + 2 i ) z^2=-\sqrt{125}(1+2i) . Finally, z 4 = 125 ( 3 + 4 i ) z^4=125(-3+4i) , so that c + d = 125 ( 3 + 4 ) = 125 c+d=125(-3+4)=\boxed{125}

AWESOME solution sir!!

Parth Lohomi - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Awesome problem! I never used that b > 0 b>0 . Did I overlook something, or is the condition unnecessary?

Otto Bretscher - 6 years, 1 month ago

Just "BRILLIANT " 👌👌👌

Jitender Sharma - 2 years, 1 month ago

sir, could u plz explain the first line, I assumed point in trigonometric terms , differentiated and then got the correct ans. sir ur soln seems to be quite short , could u plz plz plz explain it. thanks ......

rajat kharbanda - 6 years, 1 month ago

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By the triangle inequality, z 5 ( 1 + 2 i ) z 3 z 5 + ( 1 + 2 i ) z 3 |z^5-(1+2i)z^3|\leq|z^5|+|(1+2i)z^3| = 3125 + 125 5 = 3125+125\sqrt{5} , and equality holds if they are antiparallel as vectors in the complex plane.

Otto Bretscher - 6 years, 1 month ago

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ohh, this is a clever solution!

Zain Majumder - 2 years, 1 month ago
Xian Ng
May 11, 2015

Let z = r*cis(θ) Maximising distance means arguments are pi apart so arg(z^5) = arg(z^3) + arctan(2) + pi therefore using De Moivre's 5θ = 3θ + arctan(2) + π or θ = [π+arctan(2)] /2

z^4 would then = 5^4 cis(4 ([π+arctan(2)] /2)) = 5^4 cis(2π + 2arctan(2)) = 5^4 cis(2arctan(2)) we can't easily find cis(2arctan(2)) so we rewrite 5^4 cis(2arctan(2)) = (5^2 cis(arctan(2))^2

cos(arctan(2)) and sin(arctan(2)) can be easily found by creating a right angled triangle

z^4 = [ 25 ( 1/sqrt(5) ) + 25i ( 2/sqrt(5) ) ]^2 = (sqrt(125) + sqrt(500)i)^2 = 125 + 500i - 500 = -375 + 500i

-375 + 500 = 125

Diego Barreto
May 7, 2015

z 5 = z 5 c i s ( 5 θ ) { z }^{ 5 }={ \left| z \right| }^{ 5 }cis\left( 5\theta \right) z 3 × ( 1 + 2 i ) = z 3 c i s ( 3 θ ) × 5 c i s ( α ) = z 3 5 c i s ( 3 θ + α ) { z }^{ 3 }\times \left( 1+2i \right) ={ \left| z \right| }^{ 3 }cis\left( 3\theta \right) \times \sqrt { 5 } cis\left( \alpha \right) ={ \left| z \right| }^{ 3 }\sqrt { 5 } cis\left( 3\theta +\alpha \right)

(alpha is known --->cos(alpha)=1/(sqrt5) and sin(alpha)=2/(sqrt5))

As stated by Otto Bretscher: "To make the distance maximal, we want the two numbers to point in opposite directions in the complex plain". That's because these two numbers are just rotations of the original complex z (followed by increase in the absolute value). So to get the maximum distance we need opposite directions. That means:

5 θ = 3 θ + α + π o r 5 θ + π = 3 θ + α 5\theta =3\theta +\alpha +\pi \\ or\quad 5\theta +\pi =3\theta +\alpha

As we want to find z^4, let's find cis(4*theta). Binding the equations above: 4 θ = 2 α ± 2 π s i n ( 4 θ ) = s i n ( 2 α ) ; c o s ( 4 θ ) = c o s ( 2 α ) 4\theta =2\alpha \pm 2\pi \rightarrow sin\left( 4\theta \right) =sin\left( 2\alpha \right) ;cos\left( 4\theta \right) =cos\left( 2\alpha \right)

We know alpha ---> sin(2 alpha)=4/5 and cos(2 alpha)=-3/5. So, z 4 = z 4 c i s ( 4 θ ) = 5 4 × ( 3 5 + 4 5 i ) = 3 × 5 3 + 4 × 5 3 i { z }^{ 4 }={ \left| z \right| }^{ 4 }cis\left( 4\theta \right) ={ 5 }^{ 4 }\times \left( -\frac { 3 }{ 5 } +\frac { 4 }{ 5 } i \right) =-3\times { 5 }^{ 3 }+4\times { 5 }^{ 3 }i

Therefore, the answer is 5^3= 125 \boxed{125}

Hans Hsu
Apr 12, 2016

z 5 z 3 ( 1 + 2 i ) = z 3 z 2 1 2 i |z^5-z^3(1+2i)|=|z^3||z^2-1-2i|

since z 2 z^2 lives on the circle of radius 25 and we need to keep z 2 z^2 as far away from 1 + 2 i 1+2i as possible, we immediately get

z 2 = 5 5 ( 1 + 2 i ) z^2=-5\sqrt{5}(1+2i)

and

z 4 = 125 ( 3 + 4 i ) z^4=125(-3+4i)

How we are finding radius of circle |z^2-(1+2i)|

Nitin Mishra - 4 years, 3 months ago

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