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Algebra Level 2

The positive numbers x and y satisfy the equations x 4 y 4 = 2009 { x }^{ 4 }-{ y }^{ 4 }=2009 and x 2 + y 2 = 49 { x }^{ 2 }+{ y }^{ 2 }=49 . What is the value of y?

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Julian Uy
Dec 8, 2014

Since x 4 y 4 = 2009 { x }^{ 4 }-{ y }^{ 4 }=2009 , it follows that ( x 2 + y 2 ) ( x 2 y 2 ) = 2009 ({ x }^{ 2 }+{ y }^{ 2 })({ x }^{ 2 }-{ y }^{ 2 })=2009 .

But x 2 + y 2 = 49 { x }^{ 2 }+{ y }^{ 2 }=49 hence x 2 y 2 = 2009 49 = 41 { x }^{ 2 }-{ y }^{ 2 }=\frac { 2009 }{ 49 } =41 .

Subtracting gives 2 y 2 = 8 2{ y }^{ 2 }=8 hence y 2 = 4 { y }^{ 2 }=4 .

Since y > 0 y>0 , y = 2 y=\boxed { 2 } .

Bloody #$%@ :((. I got y^2 and hastily chose 4 :/ forgot to square root :s.

Farouk Yasser - 6 years, 6 months ago

Edit the problem to say "positive real numbers x x and y y " because just "numbers" may lead people to think that x , y Z + x,y\in \mathbb{Z^+} which isn't the case here!

Prasun Biswas - 6 years, 5 months ago
Jack Rawlin
Dec 24, 2014

x 4 y 4 = 2009 x^4 - y^4 = 2009

x 2 + y 2 = 49 x^2 + y^2 = 49

This can be solved with simultaneous equations by turning the second equation into one for x 2 x^2

x 2 = 49 y 2 x^2 = 49 - y^2

Since x 4 = x 2 x 2 x^4 = x^2 \cdot x^2 we can substitute it into the top equation

( 49 y 2 ) 2 y 4 = 2009 (49 - y^2)^2 - y^4 = 2009

Expanding the bracket gives

2401 98 y 2 + y 4 y 4 = 2009 2401 - 98y^2 + y^4 - y^4 = 2009

The y 4 y^4 s cancel out so we get the equation

2401 98 y 2 = 2009 2401 - 98y^2 = 2009

Rearranging this gives us

98 y 2 = 392 98y^2 = 392

Almost there, now we divide by 98 98 to get

y 2 = 4 y^2 = 4

So that means that

y = 2 y = 2

Roger Djedje
Dec 11, 2014

we have x^4 + y^4=2009 and x^2 + y^2=49 by expressing x in y in the second equation we have x^2=49-y^2...so let replace it in the first equation... with x^4=(x^2)^2, (49-y^2)^2 - y^4=2009 after developping and eliminating elements we finally find 98y^2=392 then y^2=4 because y>0 so y=2

x ^ 2 + y ^ 2 = 49 x ^ 2 = 49 - y ^ 2 replacement (49 - y ^ 2) ^ 2 - y ^ 4 = 2009 (2401 - 98y ^2 + y ^ 4) - y ^ 4 = 2009 y ^ 2 = (2009 - 2401) / (-98) = 4 y = 2

x ^ 2 + 4= 49 x ^ 2 = 45 x ~= 6;708

Gamal Sultan
Dec 10, 2014

x^4 - y^4 =( x^2 + y^2)(x^2 - y^2).

2009 = 49(x^2 - y^2).

x^2 - y^2 = 41.

y^2 = 4.

y = 2.

sir i am student, please tell me why we put (y^2=4) second last step. thanks

Aleem Sherani - 6 years, 6 months ago

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  • x^4 - y^4 =( x^2 + y^2)(x^2 - y^2).
  • 2009 = 49(x^2 - y^2).
  • x^2 - y^2 = 41.
  • ///
  • x^2 + y^2 = 4 9.
  • x^2 = 49 - y^2 .
  • ///
  • 49 - y^2 - y^2 =41.
  • -2(y^2) = -8.
  • y^2 = 4.
  • y = 2.

Ahmed Tarek - 6 years, 6 months ago

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