Top pipe falls

There is a system consisting of 3 pipes(hollow cylinders as shown in the figure). Now, the system is little disturbed. Let the initial downward acceleration of the top pipe given the conditions be

a 1 a_1 - When there is friction between the 2 cylinders and the ground but there is no friction between any of the pipes.

a 2 a_2 - When there is no friction between the 2 cylinders and the ground but there is friction between the pipes.

Find a 1 a 2 \displaystyle \frac{a_1}{a_2} .

If your answer is of the form p q \frac{p}{q} (for co-prime p , q p,q ), give your answer as p + q p+q


The answer is 28.

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Mark Hennings
Oct 25, 2016

Much the same question was posed in the problems A triangle of cylinders (part 1) and A triangle of cylinders (part 2) , except that in these problems the cylinders were assumed solid. Thus we simply need to rerun the calculations of these two problems, replacing the moment of inertia 1 2 m r 2 \tfrac12mr^2 of a uniform disk of mass m m and radius r r with the moment of inertia m r 2 mr^2 of a circular wire of mass m m and radius r r to obtain a 1 = 1 13 g a_1 = \tfrac{1}{13}g and a 2 = 1 15 g a_2 = \tfrac{1}{15}g , so that a 1 a 2 = 15 13 \frac{a_1}{a_2} = \frac{15}{13} , making the answer 28 \boxed{28} .

This was a nice q Trickier part was that relation between A and a was same in both cases However alpha and A have different relations Since slipping takes place at 2 different places in the 2 cases

Nitish Deshpande - 4 years, 7 months ago

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The question only asked for the initial acceleration, so when the models break down is not an issue...

Mark Hennings - 4 years, 7 months ago

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