Tracing Electric Field Lines

Consider two charges q 1 > 0 q_{1}>0 and q 2 < 0 q_{2}<0 . An electric field line exits the positive charge q 1 q_{1} at 45 45 degrees and enters the negative charge q 2 q_2 at 180 180 degrees. What is the ratio q 1 q 2 \frac{|q_{1}|}{|q_{2}|} ?


The answer is 6.83.

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Mark Hennings
Jan 30, 2014

Standard bookwork tells us that the equation of a general field line is q 1 cos θ 1 + q 2 cos θ 2 = c q_1\cos\theta_1 + q_2\cos\theta_2 = c for some constant c c , where θ 1 \theta_1 is the angle that the line from the particle to the charge q 1 q_1 makes with the line joining the two charges, and θ 2 \theta_2 is the angle that the line from the particle to the charge q 2 q_2 makes with the same line.

When the field line leaves q 1 q_1 we have θ 1 = 4 5 \theta_1=45^\circ and θ 2 = 18 0 \theta_2=180^\circ , When the field line enters q 2 q_2 we have θ 1 = θ 2 = 0 \theta_1=\theta_2=0^\circ . Thus q 1 + q 2 = c q 1 2 q 2 = c q_1 + q_2 \; = \; c \qquad \qquad \tfrac{q_1}{\sqrt{2}} - q_2 \; = \; c and solving these simultaneous equations gives q 1 q 2 = 2 2 2 1 = 2 ( 2 + 2 ) = 6.828 \left|\tfrac{q_1}{q_2}\right| \; = \; \tfrac{2\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{2}-1} \; = \; 2(2+\sqrt{2}) \; = \; 6.828

very nice solution

Ameya Virkud - 7 years, 2 months ago
Anish Puthuraya
Jan 27, 2014

Instead of considering just one line, let us consider a numerous amount of Field lines that emerge from q 1 q_1 and enter q 2 q_2 at the respective angles α \alpha and β \beta (thus creating a cone in the vicinity of each charge)

Now,
It is a proven fact, and also an obvious one, that the magnitude of the charges are inversely proportional to the respective Solid angles .

We know,
Solid angle = 2 π ( 1 cos θ ) \displaystyle = 2\pi(1-\cos\theta) , where θ \theta is the half angle of the cone.

Hence,
q 1 1 2 π ( 1 cos α ) \displaystyle |q_1| \propto \frac{1}{2\pi(1-\cos\alpha)} and q 2 1 2 π ( 1 cos β ) \displaystyle |q_2| \propto \frac{1}{2\pi(1-\cos\beta)}

Dividing the two equations,

q 1 q 2 = 1 cos β 1 cos α = 1 cos π 1 c o s π 4 = 2 1 1 2 6.83 \displaystyle \frac{|q_1|}{|q_2|} = \frac{1-\cos\beta}{1-\cos\alpha} = \frac{1-\cos\pi}{1-cos\frac{\pi}{4}} = \frac{2}{1-\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}} \approx \boxed{6.83}

you can also use more straightfoward geometry to arrive at the solution.

Surface area of a sphere = 4πR^2

Given 45 degrees, the area of the spherical cap 'consuming' the lesser charge: = 2πRh = 2πR^2(1-2^(-1/2))

The ratio of these areas is the ratio of the charges. You could also use volume and a 'spherical sector.'

Sam Holden - 7 years, 3 months ago

Where did you find the formula? Please share the link or the name of the book.

Maharnab Mitra - 7 years, 4 months ago

Check Wikipedia Here

Anish Puthuraya - 7 years, 4 months ago

solve S S Krotov

Komal Sai - 7 years, 3 months ago

Yeah, I have solved it..Its the first problem of Krotov..

Anish Puthuraya - 7 years, 3 months ago

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