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Two guns are mounted on the top of a hill at height 10 m 10m . They fire one shot each with the same speed 5 3 m s 1 5\sqrt{3}\ ms^{-1} First gun fires at time t = 0 t=0 upwards at an angle 60 ° 60° with the horizontal. After that firing, at time Δ \Delta second gun fires in horizontal direction. If the bullets fired by two guns collide with each other at some time in future, calculate the time interval Δ \Delta between the two firings.

Details and assumptions:- 1)Take g = 10 m / s g=10m/s

2)Everything is measured in SI units

3)This question is taken from an old IIT test


The answer is 1.

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3 solutions

Mikael Marcondes
Jan 21, 2015

First, we must record our constants:

θ 1 = 60 º {\theta_1}=60º , θ 2 = 0 º {\theta_2}=0º , v 0 = 5 3 m / s {v_0}=5\sqrt{3}\ m/s and v 0 = 10 m / s 2 {v_0}=10\ m/s^{2} .

It's important to note that the initial time is diferent to both movements, since they begin at different instants. From the exposed, we have:

t 0 = t 0 + Δ t {t'_0}={t_0}+\Delta{t}

We can fix t 0 = 0 {t_0}=0 and then assemble the parametric equations of the two movements as follows:

x 1 ( t ) = v 0 . c o s θ 1 . ( t t 0 ) {x_1}(t)={v_0}.cos\ {\theta_1}.(t-{t_0})

y 1 ( t ) = v 0 . s e n θ 1 . ( t t 0 ) g 2 . ( t t 0 ) 2 {y_1}(t)={v_0}.sen\ {\theta_1}.(t-{t_0})-{\frac{g}{2}}.(t-{t_0})^{2}

x 2 ( t ) = v 0 . c o s θ 2 . ( t t 0 ) {x_2}(t)={v_0}.cos\ {\theta_2}.(t-{t'_0})

y 2 ( t ) = v 0 . s e n θ 2 . ( t t 0 ) g 2 . ( t t 0 ) 2 {y_2}(t)={v_0}.sen\ {\theta_2}.(t-{t'_0})-{\frac{g}{2}}.(t-{t'_0})^{2}

At the instant the two shells collide, both vertical and horizontal position are equal. So, we have:

x 1 ( t ) = x 2 ( t ) {x_1(t)}={x_2}(t)

v 0 . c o s θ 1 . t = v 0 . c o s θ 2 . ( t Δ t ) {v_0}.cos\ {\theta_1}.t={v_0}.cos\ {\theta_2}.(t-\Delta{t})

5 3 . c o s 60 º . t = 5 3 . c o s 0 º . ( t Δ t ) 5\sqrt{3}.cos\ 60º.t=5\sqrt{3}.cos\ 0º.(t-\Delta{t})

c o s 60 º . t = c o s 0 º . ( t Δ t ) cos\ 60º.t=cos\ 0º.(t-\Delta{t})

1 2 . t = 1. ( t Δ t ) \frac{1}{2}.t=1.(t-\Delta{t})

Δ t = t 2 \Delta{t}=\displaystyle {\frac{t}{2}}

y 1 ( t ) = y 2 ( t ) {y_1(t)}={y_2}(t)

v 0 . s e n θ 1 . t g 2 . t 2 = v 0 . s e n θ 2 . ( t Δ t ) g 2 . ( t Δ t ) 2 {v_0}.sen\ {\theta_1}.t-\displaystyle{\frac{g}{2}}.t^{2}={v_0}.sen\ {\theta_2}.(t-\Delta{t})-{\frac{g}{2}}.(t-\Delta{t})^{2}

v 0 . s e n θ 1 . t v 0 . s e n θ 2 . ( t Δ t ) = g 2 . t 2 g 2 . ( t Δ t ) 2 {v_0}.sen\ {\theta_1}.t-{v_0}.sen\ {\theta_2}.(t-\Delta{t})=\displaystyle {\frac{g}{2}}.t^{2}-{\frac{g}{2}}.(t-\Delta{t})^{2}

v 0 . [ s e n θ 1 . t s e n θ 2 . ( t Δ t ) ] = g 2 . [ t 2 ( t Δ t ) 2 ] {v_0}.[sen\ {\theta_1}.t-sen\ {\theta_2}.(t-\Delta{t})]=\displaystyle {\frac{g}{2}}.[t^{2}-(t-\Delta{t})^{2}]

v 0 . [ s e n θ 1 . t s e n θ 2 . ( t t 2 ) ] = g 2 . [ t 2 ( t t 2 ) 2 ] {v_0}.[sen\ {\theta_1}.t-sen\ {\theta_2}.(t-\displaystyle {\frac{t}{2}})]={\frac{g}{2}}.[t^{2}-(t-{\frac{t}{2}})^{2}]

v 0 . [ s e n θ 1 . t s e n θ 2 . ( t t 2 ) ] = 3 g t 2 8 {v_0}.[sen\ {\theta_1}.t-sen\ {\theta_2}.(t-{\frac{t}{2}})]=\displaystyle{\frac{3gt^{2}}{8}}

5 3 . 3 2 . t 0. ( t t 2 ) = 3 g t 2 8 5\sqrt{3}.\displaystyle \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}.t-0.(t-{\frac{t}{2}})=\displaystyle{\frac{3gt^{2}}{8}}

15 2 . t = 3.10 8 . t 2 \displaystyle \frac{15}{2}.t=\displaystyle{\frac{3.10}{8}.t^{2}}

And finally:

t = 2 Δ t = 2 2 = 1 s t=2 \rightarrow \Delta{t}=\displaystyle {\frac{2}{2}}=\boxed{1\ s}

Kushal Patankar
Jan 16, 2015

First of all for collision time of flight of firstly fired bullet must be greater than the time if flight. Suppose they collide t + Δ t +\Delta time after the first bullet has been fired or t t t time after the first bullet has been fired. i . e . t + Δ 5 3 s i n ( 60 ° ) + ( 5 3 s i n ( 60 ° ) ) 2 + 2 g × 10 g i.e. t +\Delta \leq \frac{5√3sin(60°) + \sqrt{(5√3sin(60°))^2 + 2g\times 10}}{g} t + Δ 2.35078 t+\Delta \leq 2.35078 For collision, distance travelled in y dir and distance travelled in x dir will be same for both the bullets. 5 3 c o s ( 60 ° ) ( t + Δ ) = 5 3 t \Rightarrow 5√3cos(60°) (t+\Delta) = 5√3 t \space \space Here we get, t = Δ . ( i ) t= \Delta. (i) And 5 3 s i n ( 60 ° ) ( t + Δ ) g ( t + Δ ) 2 / 2 = g t 2 / 2 ( i i ) 5√3 sin(60°)(t+ \Delta) - g(t+\Delta)^2/2 = -gt^2/2 \space \space (ii) From (i) &(ii) 15 = 15 t t = 1 15 = 15t \Rightarrow \boxed{t=1}

Nicely Done ! Upvoted ! :D

Keshav Tiwari - 6 years, 4 months ago

the equation i is wrong t=2delta, t=1 is the time when the bullets collide, so delta is 1/2

Sergio Rodriguez - 6 years, 4 months ago

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You are wrong

Somesh Meena - 6 years, 4 months ago

How did you got that inequality? Please explain. And I think you typoed! It should be time t from the firing of second bullet (and not first)

Pranjal Jain - 6 years, 4 months ago

Can you try to clean up your solution? As problem states, Δ \Delta is what we are supposed to find out. I don't understand what is your t t is. For me, I get t = 2 t=2 and Δ = 1 \Delta = 1 .

Snehal Shekatkar - 6 years, 4 months ago

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For capital greek delta, type \Delta, \delta is for small greek letter.

  • Δ = \Delta = \Delta
  • δ = \delta = \delta

Pranjal Jain - 6 years, 4 months ago

can you please elaborate on how you got the first inequality?@kushal

Mardokay Mosazghi - 6 years, 4 months ago
Michael Mendrin
Oct 4, 2014

You really need to specify that the times are from firings to the moment when both shells meet at the same point in space at the same time. That's a detail that's left out, I think.

Thanks going to fix it

Aman Sharma - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Didn't fix it yet! Me and @Snehal Shekatkar spent 2 hours on solving this level 1 question.

Pranjal Jain - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Fixed it! Nice problem anyways.

Pranjal Jain - 6 years, 4 months ago

I and @Pranjal Jain rephrased the whole problem now.

Snehal Shekatkar - 6 years, 4 months ago

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