Tres amigas, yet again!

A bag contains 10 red and 10 blue marbles.

  • Ella takes a marble from the bag (without looking) and puts it in her pocket.
  • Next, Bella takes a marble from the bag.
  • Finally, Frabduzella takes a marble from the bag.

If Bella and Frabduzella both have blue marbles, what is the probability that Ella's marble is red?

If the probability is a b , \frac ab, where a a and b b are coprime positive integers, submit your answer as a + b . a+b.


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The answer is 14.

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2 solutions

Geoff Pilling
Oct 22, 2018

The order with which they drew out the marbles is unimportant.

Bella and Frabduzella both took blue marbles.

That leaves 18 marbles that Ella could have chosen, 8 blues and 10 reds.

So, the probability she chose red is

10 18 = 5 9 \dfrac{10}{18} = \dfrac{5}{9}

5 + 9 = 14 5+9 = \boxed{14}

Nice title, by the way! ;-)

Nice solution, same as mine :)

The main point of course is that the order is not important. But as in your problem, it requires the realization that information revealed "afterwards" (the fact that E is taller than B, or the fact that B & F got blue marbles) can affect the distribution of a random variable sampled "beforehand" (F's height relative to E or E's marble color.)

Varsha Dani - 2 years, 7 months ago

Curious to note that if the bag originally had N N red and N + 2 N + 2 blue marbles, and both Bella and Frabduzella took blue marbles, then Ella's marble was as likely red as blue, no matter what N 1 N \ge 1 is.

Brian Charlesworth - 2 years, 7 months ago
Parth Sankhe
Oct 22, 2018

There are other simpler solutions, but heres one through Baye's method:

P ( R 2 B ) = P ( R Π 2 B ) P ( 2 B ) P(\frac {R}{2B}) = \frac {P(R Π 2B)}{P(2B)} , here R» Event that Ella got red, 2B» Event that the other 2 got blue.( Π = i n t e r s e c t i o n Π=intersection )

= ½ ( 10 19 9 18 ) ½ ( 10 19 9 18 ) + ½ ( 9 19 8 18 ) \frac {½(\frac {10}{19} \cdot \frac {9}{18})}{½(\frac {10}{19} \cdot \frac {9}{18})+½(\frac {9}{19} \cdot \frac {8}{18})}

= 5 9 \frac {5}{9}

That's Bayes' Method, not Bayer's :)

Varsha Dani - 2 years, 7 months ago

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