Trial in Wonderland III

Logic Level 3

The Dodo, the Gryphon, and the Mock Turtle were on trial for theft. Exactly one of the three was guilty. Each was allowed to make an accusation (they could accuse themselves).

  • The Dodo said, "The Mock Turtle is Guilty!"
  • The Gryphon said, "The Dodo is Guilty!"
  • The Mock Turtle's statement was kept private.

In addition:

  • The Queen of Hearts was told who the Mock Turtle accused and how many of the three statements were true.
  • Alice was told how many of the three statements were true.

User her powers of deduction, the Queen of Hearts announced, "I know who is guilty!"

Alice replied, "I also know who is guilty!"

It is well-known that both the Alice and the Queen are very logical. Which defendant is guilty?

This problem is an easier version of this problem and this problem .
Gryphon Mock Turtle Dodo

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1 solution

Maggie Miller
Jul 18, 2015
  1. If the Mock Turtle accused the Gryphon, then no matter who was guilty, exactly 1 true statement would have been made. Then the Queen would not have been able to figure out which was the true statement. Therefore, the Mock Turtle did not accuse the Gryphon .

  2. Alice knows that the Queen figured out who was guilty, so by the same logic we used, she knows that the Mock Turtle did not accuse the Gryphon. If she were told that 1 or 2 true statements were made, she would know that either the Dodo or the Mock Turtle was guilty, but not which. Therefore, she must have been told that 0 true statements were made . (Note: she can't have been told that 3 true statements were made, since we know that the Dodo and Gryphon accused different people.)

  3. We know that 1 or 2 people accused the Dodo and 1 or 2 people accused the Mock Turtle, but 0 true statements were made. Therefore, the Gryphon is guilty .

I guess there is something to polish here.

If Alice was told that 0 statements were true, then it does not matter what the third statement was, nor does it matter what the Queen said. She knew the Mock Turtle did not accuse the Gryphon (otherwise at least ONE statement must have been true). Knowing both things, she did not need to wait for the Queen. Alice knew the Gryphon was guilty as soon as she heard that 0 statements where true, because none of the two first where therefore true, and that leaves the Gryphon as the only option.

The "Now that you've said that" part is unnecessary and misleading, IMO.

Noé Otero Mateo - 5 years, 10 months ago

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I just wanted to make it ambiguous whether or not Allce already knew the answer, so the reader is given less information while the problem is still solvable.

Maggie Miller - 5 years, 10 months ago

FYI For clarity of the problem, I have removed the option of "Alice".

You can reduce the number of choices by selecting the "stop" button to the left of the choices.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Oh great, thanks! I didn't think I could admit fewer than four options.

Maggie Miller - 5 years, 11 months ago

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We can have 2-8 options. To add more, select "Add an option".

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 11 months ago

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