Square A B C D has side length 5 . Points M , N , and P are the midpoints of A B , B C , and A D respectively. The area of the triangle bounded by the lines A N , B P , and D M can be expressed as q p for positive coprime integers p and q . Find p + q .
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Shouldn't it be Menelaus' theorem in triangle AMD, not AMB?
very good solution,i like it...............................
this solution is the best one.... (y)
I took the same approach as well initially found out RST is a right triangle and wanted to use Menelau's theorem and similar triangles, but then thought solving through equation of lines would be simpler and took that approach. But your solution is awesome, I always like solving problems by pure geometrical techiques to explore the beauty of how perfect were the primitive methods and wanted to think how problems would have been solved before Leibniz, Newton, others invented calculus.
Line
D
M
,
B
P
, and
A
N
can be represented as functions
D
M
B
P
A
N
⇒
⇒
⇒
y
=
2
x
2
y
=
x
+
5
2
y
=
1
0
−
x
The intersection points those three lines are
(
3
5
,
3
1
0
)
,
(
2
5
,
4
1
5
)
, and
(
2
,
4
)
. Thus, by using
Wolfram Alpha
, the area of the triangle bounded by the lines
D
M
,
B
P
, and
A
N
is
Triangle in Square
Therefore,
p
+
q
=
2
9
.
Your Wolfram Alpha solution is less than satisfying, sorry to say. Try not to depend on W|A too much ;)
Instead, you could have used the Shoelace Theorem. I myself used similar triangles though...
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Did you think I didn't know that formula? I've used that formula many times on Brilliant. You can check from my solutions that I've posted. I only use Wolfram Alpha when I know how to solve problems but too lazy to use manual calculation. BTW, do you think if I copy this problem & paste it on the input, Wolfram Alpha could answer it? If that so, you may not be satisfied and say, "Try not to depend on W|A too much". :D
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I feel like you guys are both extremely mad trying to insult each other in the nicest possible way.
It doesnt depend on how one solves the question. He got correct answer, that matters.
daniel liu: share your solution too as i find the shared solution as the easiest way to solve this problem.
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Totally agree. Daniel liu is probably pissed off seeing that we solved it a easier way. :-)
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Nah, I'm not angry. I knew clearly that coordinate bashing worked, but still decided to post the problem because I was hoping some people would solve it some other way.
finding the equations of lines and then ponts intersection and finally the area of traingle is the easiest and best way, which I have used to solve this.
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can you post the solution ? BTW is it possible for solving the question only by considering the areas of triangles and adding and subtracting and other manipulations.
I use the same method, by I calculate it by myself
see the area is an irrational number with a sqrt(3) in it this problem framing is wrong you should have asked to use the first three or four decimal places but not the entire value
The area of all the given triangles viz ABN,AMD,APB is same i.e. in the form of p/q.The side of the square is 5 and it's mid-point is 2.5 therefore,the area of each triangle given above is 1/2 2.5(height) 5(side)=125/20 =25/4.The required answer is p+q i.e 25+4=29.
this solution is wrong !!!!!!!
correct
This is easiest and good solution,I agree. Congratulations Raven Herd.
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the area of the triangle was 5/24, not 25/4
The area of small triangle is being asked and you just found out any area added the numerator and denominator. Fortunately they matched and so you considered yourself as correct. Have a look again at the question and your solution.
Let, AN and BP intersect at O, AN and DM intersect at F, DM and BP intersect at E. In △ N A B , tan ∠ N A B = 2 1 and ∠ N A B = ∠ P B A ; a n g l e A N B = ∠ O B N = 2 π − ∠ N A B Therefore, AO=OB=ON=OP= 2 A N = 2 cos ∠ N A B A B = 4 5 5 and ∠ N O B = π − 2 ∠ O B N = 2 ∠ N A B . In, △ A M F we have, AF= A M cos ∠ N A B = 5 . Therefore, OF=OA-AF= 4 5 In, △ O E F we have, ∠ E O F = ∠ N O B and, OE=OF tan ∠ N O B = 3 5 Thus, area of △ O E F = 2 O E × O F = 2 4 5 Therefore p+q= 2 9
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Use co ordinate geometry guys, find the eqn. of 3 line that form the triangle and the intersections pts. are (2,4),(5/3,10/3),(5/2,15/4). Find the area of triamgle and solve this problem
Area of any triangle= (1/2)(5)(5/2) =25/4 =p/q =25+4 =29
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Let AN and DM intersect at R, BP and AN intersect at T and DM and BP intersect at S.
Its easy to get A N = D M = B P = 2 5 5 by Pythagorean Theorem.
Also, T is mid point of A N and B P , so A T = 4 5 5 .
Again, its easy to see that triangles A D M , A B N and A B P are congruent, then A M D = A N B = A P B and A D M = B A N = P B A .
Also D A R = A N B because A D / / B C . As we know B A N + A N B = 9 0 ° , we can get A D M + D A R = 9 0 ° and because it, A R and D M are perpendiculars to each other. The good news is our desired triangle R S T is a right triangle!
Now, notice triangles A M D , R M A and R A D are similars, so D M A M = A M R M ⇒ ( 2 5 ) 2 = R M ⋅ 2 5 5 ∴ R M = 2 5
and
A M A R = D M A D ⇒ 5 ⋅ 2 5 = A R ⋅ 2 5 5 ∴ A R = 5 .
By Menelau´s Theorem in triangle A M B with B , S and P in transversal line, we can find M S :
B M A B ⋅ S D M S ⋅ P A D P = 1 ⇒ 2 5 5 ⋅ 2 5 5 − M S M S ⋅ 2 5 2 5 = 1 ∴ M S = 6 5 5 .
Then, in triangle R S T , we have
R S = M S − R M = 6 5 5 − 2 5 = 3 5
and
R T = A T − A R = 4 5 5 − 5 = 4 5
So, [ R S T ] = 2 1 ⋅ 4 5 ⋅ 3 5 = 2 4 5 .