Triple Pane Windows

Algebra Level 5

My triple pane windows will each transmit 70%, reflect 20%, and then absorb the remaining 10% of light that falls on it. What is the total amount of light (in %) that passes through to the other side?


The answer is 38.027.

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Calvin Lin Staff
Nov 24, 2016

Since everyone else is presenting a geometric progression summation approach, let me present one that approaches the problem by redefining it.

What we really care about is:
100 % 100\% the amount of light entering pane 1,
a a the amount of light from pane 1 to pane 2,
b b the amount of light from pane 2 to pane 1,
c c the amount of light from pane 2 to pane 3,
d d the amount of light from pane 3 to pane 2,
e e the amount of light from pane 3 to the right.


From the problem, we have the following equations:

a = 0.7 × 1 + 0.2 × b b = 0.2 × a + 0.7 × d c = 0.7 × a + 0.2 × d d = 0.2 × c e = 0.7 × c \begin{array} { l l } a & = 0.7 \times 1 + 0.2 \times b \\ b & = 0.2 \times a + 0.7 \times d \\ c & = 0.7 \times a + 0.2 \times d \\ d & = 0.2 \times c \\ e & = 0.7 \times c \\ \end{array}

Solving this system, we get that a = 74.5 % , b = 22.5 % , c = 54.3 % , d = 10.8 % , e = 38.0 % a = 74.5\%, b = 22.5\%, c = 54.3 \%, d = 10.8 \%, e = 38.0 \% .

I decided to look for a solution that is easily generalized to other values and to more panes. Consider n n panes of glass with transmittancy T = 0.7 T = 0.7 and reflectivity R = 0.2 R = 0.2 .

Let a i a_i describe the light traveling in the "forward" direction and b i b_i the light traveling in the "backward" direction. We actually know more about the light near the last pane, because the implied assumption is that no light comes in from that side. Thus we call the last pane, "pane 1" and work backward. In other words, we are to find the ratio b 0 b n \frac{b_0}{b_n} under the assumption a 0 = 0 a_0 = 0 . The optics of pane i i is defined by the equations a i 1 = T a i + R b i 1 b i = T b i 1 + R a i a_{i-1} = Ta_i + Rb_{i-1} \\ b_i = Tb_{i-1} + Ra_i Manipulating this, we get ( a b ) i = M ( a b ) i 1 with M = ( T 2 R 2 T R T R T 1 T ) \left(\begin{array}{c} a \\ b \end{array}\right)_i = M\ \left(\begin{array}{c} a \\ b \end{array}\right)_{i-1}\ \ \ \text{with}\ \ \ M = \left(\begin{array}{cc} \dfrac{T^2-R^2}T & \dfrac R T \\ -\dfrac R T & \dfrac 1 T\end{array}\right) and ( a b ) n = M n ( a b ) 0 . \left(\begin{array}{c} a \\ b \end{array}\right)_n = M^n\ \left(\begin{array}{c} a \\ b \end{array}\right)_0. We find for the given values that M = 1 14 ( 9 4 4 20 ) , M = \frac1{14} \left(\begin{array}{cc} 9 & 4 \\ -4 & 20 \end{array}\right), and ( a 3 b 3 ) = 1 1 4 3 ( 121 2580 2580 7216 ) ( 0 b 0 ) , \left(\begin{array}{c} a_3 \\ b_3 \end{array}\right) = \frac1{14^3} \left(\begin{array}{cc} 121 & 2580 \\ -2580 & 7216 \end{array}\right) \left(\begin{array}{c} 0 \\ b_0 \end{array}\right), so that b 3 = 7216 1 4 3 b 0 b_3 = \frac{7216}{14^3} b_0 and b 0 / b 3 = 1 4 3 / 7216 0.380266 = 38.0266 % b_0/b_3 = 14^3/7216 \approx 0.380266 = \boxed{38.0266\%} .

For multiple window panes, it is more efficient to work with an eigenvalue decomposition of matrix M M . I will post more details in the comments.

Great! That's a marvelous approach!

I like your interpretation of "last pane allows no light in by assumption", which simplifies the calculations.

I wonder what insights the eigenvalue decomposition would give us in terms of the rate at which b 0 / b n b_0 / b_n decreases.

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 6 months ago

The eigenvalues of matrix M M are generally λ ± = 1 T ( B ± C ) , B = 1 + T 2 R 2 2 , C = 1 T 2 R 2 2 . \lambda_\pm = \frac1T\left(B\pm\sqrt{C}\right),\ \ \ B = \frac{1+T^2-R^2}2,\ \ \ C = \frac{1-T^2-R^2}2. Because of symmetry, these values must be multiplicative inverses: λ + λ = 1 \lambda_{+}\lambda_{-} = 1 .

The corresponding eigenvectors are v ± = ( R A C ) , A = 1 T 2 + R 2 2 . v_\pm = \left(\begin{array}{c} R \\ A \mp \sqrt{C} \end{array}\right),\ \ \ A = \frac{1-T^2 + R^2}2. (Physical interpretation: if the incoming and outgoing light on one side of the pane has this ratio, then it will be the same ratio on the other side.)

We can now write the "output" situation at the last pane as linear combination of the eigenvectors ( a b ) 0 = k + v + + k v , \left(\begin{array}{c} a \\ b \end{array}\right)_0 = k_{+}v_{+} + k_{-}v_{-}, and immediately find for the "input" situation ( a b ) n = k + λ + n v + + k λ n v . \left(\begin{array}{c} a \\ b \end{array}\right)_n = k_{+}\lambda_{+}^n v_{+} + k_{-}\lambda_{-}^n v_{-}.

With a 0 = 0 a_0 = 0 we get k + = k = : k k_{+} = -k_{-} =: k , and with b 0 = 1 b_0 = 1 we decide k = 1 / 2 C k = 1/2\sqrt{C} .

This leaves us with ( a b ) n = λ + n λ n 2 C ( R A ) + λ + n + λ n 2 ( 0 1 ) . \left(\begin{array}{c} a \\ b \end{array}\right)_n = \frac{\lambda_{+}^n - \lambda_{-}^n}{2\sqrt C} \left(\begin{array}{c} R \\ A \end{array}\right) + \frac{\lambda_{+}^n + \lambda_{-}^n}{2} \left(\begin{array}{c} 0 \\ 1 \end{array}\right).

Back to the original problem (what fraction of light gets through after n n panes) we get b 0 b n = 2 C ( λ + n λ n ) A + ( λ + n + λ n ) C \frac{b_0}{b_n} = \frac{2\sqrt{C}}{(\lambda_{+}^n - \lambda_{-}^n)A + (\lambda_{+}^n + \lambda_{-}^n)\sqrt{C}} with A , C , λ A, C, \lambda defined above. With the given values, λ + 1.305 , λ 0.766 , A = 0.275 , C 0.0356. \lambda_{+} \approx 1.305,\ \ \lambda_{-} \approx 0.766,\ \ A = 0.275, \ \ C \approx 0.0356. For 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. panes, we find the following percentages of light passing through: 70 , 51.0 , 38.0 , 28.7 , 21.8 , 16.6 , 12.7 , 70,\ \ 51.0,\ \ 38.0,\ \ 28.7, \ \ 21.8,\ \ 16.6,\ \ 12.7, \dots In the limit for very large n n , we ignore the contributions of 0 < λ < 1 0 < \lambda_{-} < 1 and get b 0 b n 2 C ( A + C ) λ + n 0.8140 0.76 6 n . \frac{b_0}{b_n} \approx \frac{2\sqrt{C}}{(A + \sqrt{C})}\lambda_{+}^{-n} \approx 0.8140\cdot 0.766^n.

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 4 years, 6 months ago

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Oh wow, this is really exciting!

I feel like there is an interesting problem that looks at the "incoming and outgoing light" from a pane, and asks what happens at the other end. (At this point in time, I'm thinking about the Buddhism levels of reincarnation and asking how many people make it out into heaven/hell lol)

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 6 months ago
Mark Hennings
Nov 24, 2016

Consider a 2 2 -pane window, where the first pane transmits the proportion p 1 p_1 and reflects the proportion q 1 q_1 of the light incident on it, while the second pane's transmission and reflection coefficients are p 2 p_2 and q 2 q_2 . The proportion of light transmitted by the 2 2 -pane window is P 12 = n = 0 p 1 p 2 ( q 1 q 2 ) n = p 1 p 2 1 q 1 q 2 P_{12} \; = \; \sum_{n=0}^\infty p_1p_2(q_1q_2)^n \; = \; \frac{p_1p_2}{1-q_1q_2} (consider the number of times the light bounces back and forth between the two panes), while the proportion of light reflected is Q 12 = q 1 + n = 0 p 1 2 q 2 ( q 1 q 2 ) n = q 1 + p 1 2 q 2 1 q 1 q 2 Q_{12} \; = \; q_1 + \sum_{n=0}^\infty p_1^2q_2(q_1q_2)^n \; = \; q_1 + \frac{p_1^2q_2}{1-q_1q_2} A 3 3 -pane window with relevant coefficients p 1 , q 2 , p 2 , q 2 , p 3 , q 3 p_1,q_2,p_2,q_2,p_3,q_3 can be regarded as a 2 2 -pane window with relevant coefficients P 12 , Q 12 , p 3 , q 3 P_{12},Q_{12},p_3,q_3 (thinking of the first two panes as a single unit), and so the overall proportion of transmitted light is t = P 12 p 3 1 Q 12 q 3 t \; = \; \frac{P_{12}p_3}{1 - Q_{12}q_3} For p 1 = p 2 = p 3 = p p_1=p_2=p_3=p and q 1 = q 2 = q 3 = q q_1=q_2=q_3=q we have t = p 3 ( 1 q 2 ) 2 p 2 q 2 t \; = \; \frac{p^3}{(1-q^2)^2 - p^2q^2} With p = 0.7 p=0.7 , q = 0.2 q=0.2 this becomes t = 0.380266 t = 0.380266 , making the answer 38.0266 \boxed{38.0266} %. Reassuringly, we obtain the same answer if we consider the second and third panes as a single unit first, obtaining the alternative formula t = p 1 P 23 1 q 1 Q 23 t \; = \; \frac{p_1P_{23}}{1 - q_1Q_{23}} for the transmission coefficient.

Saya Suka
Nov 23, 2016

Also the same like double pane glass, but this time we have to consider the rays that return into the "first between" after successfully passing through the second pane.
First, we need to know the total lights that will manage to pass the second screen before going on to the third one, but we could not get them directly because the lights keep reflecting and transmitting back and forth.

Let X be the % of 2-paners lights (1-paners is 70%, and 3-paners is what the question wants).

X = (2-paners strictly from "first between") + (2-paners which have already reached "second between" but reflected at 3rd pane, transmitted at 2nd pane, reflected at 1st pane, and transmitted again at 2nd pane (for its a) and the rest of it) + (like the group before, but its a was reflected twice more before transmitted back into "first between") + .....

X = 49 / (1 - 0.04) + X * 0.2 * 0.7 * 0.2 * 0.7 / (1 - 0.04) + X * 0.2 * 0.2 * 0.2 * 0.7 * 0.2 * 0.7 / (1 - 0.04) + .......
0.96X = 49 + 0.0196X / (1 - 0.04).
X = 52.15.
Then just use X to get the 3-paners,
52.15*0.7/0.96 = 38.0266

Again, for someone who doesn't understand how to solve this problem, it's not clear what you're doing / why it works. Can you provide more explanations?

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 6 months ago

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Great! This is much better. You can see that this problem can be hard to clearly explain to someone else who doesn't understand how to deal with the triple pane reflections/refractions.

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 6 months ago

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