Trollathon #1.7 : Gibberish

Number Theory Level pending

Nodobwsxo dro vkbqocd zycsdsfo sxdoqob x cemr drkd dro pyvvygsxq cdkdowoxd sc dbeo: "dgy dryeckxn kxn pyebdoox pkmdybskv oxnc sx x jobyoc"


The answer is 501.

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4 solutions

Zi Song Yeoh
Apr 2, 2014

Using the caesar cipher, we can transform Nodobwsxo dro vkbqocd zycsdsfo sxdoqob x cemr drkd dro pyvvygsxq cdkdowoxd sc dbeo: "dgy dryeckxn kxn pyebdoox pkmdybskv oxnc sx x jobyoc" to Determine the largest positive integer n such that the following statement is true: "two thousand and fourteen factorial ends in n zeroes"

Now, the problem is clear. We just use the legende formula to find out that 2014 ! 2014! ends in 501 \boxed{501} zeroes.

hmmm... That should be a Computer Science problem, with some NT in it, by the way, it is Legendre, not Legende...

敬全 钟 - 7 years, 2 months ago

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You don't need any electronic aids for this question, do you? The answer is simply n = 0 2014 5 n , \displaystyle \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \left \lfloor \dfrac{2014}{5^n} \right \rfloor ,
which can easily be computed by hand.

Sreejato Bhattacharya - 7 years, 2 months ago

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Before that, you need to crack the code by Caesar Cipher, so that's why I say it is more too like Computer Science...(yes, after we crack the code, we can calculate by hand)

敬全 钟 - 7 years, 2 months ago

By the way, it should be 5 n 5^n , not 1 0 n 10^n ...

敬全 钟 - 7 years, 2 months ago

Aww I didn't thought of Caesar Cipher. Just thought of Google Translate

Daniel Lim - 7 years, 2 months ago

what is legendre's formula?

Ying Xuan Eng - 7 years, 2 months ago

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Click here

敬全 钟 - 7 years, 2 months ago

Which language is this ?????

Anuj Shikarkhane - 6 years, 10 months ago

llllllllllooooollllll

deepthi prakash - 6 years, 9 months ago
Hs N
Sep 14, 2014

If one does not realise it's a Caesar's cipher, but expects an arbitrary mono-alphabetic substitution, it is still quite solvable. First of all, one notices that the word 'dro' occurs several times throughout the text and could expect it to mean 'the'. In that case, 'drkd' must mean 'that'. If one knows that the only two one-letter words in english are 'a' and 'I', one gets confused at this point, since 'x' would have to be 'I'. However, 'pyebdoox' would have to end in 'teei', which doesn't occur in the english language. A next guess could be that 'kxn' means 'and', since 'kxn' both occurs as a word, and as the last three letters of 'dryeckxn'. We now realise that 'x' stands for 'n' and that the word 'sxdoqob' has to be 'integer'. From there, it's an easy exercise to fill in the remaining letters and all that's left to do is count the number of prime factors 5 5 in 2014 ! 2014! .

Exactly, that's how i did it.

Ritu Roy - 6 years, 8 months ago
Pranav Kirsur
Apr 19, 2014

use the caesar cipher

Ahaan Rungta
Apr 2, 2014

Using the Caesar Cipher, we get: Determine the largest positive integer n such that the following statement is true: "two thousand and fourteen factorial ends in n zeroes"

The answer is 501 \boxed {501} .

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