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{ 5 a + 3 b + c = 17 1 a + 4 b + 7 c = 21 \large{ \begin{cases} 5a+3b+c=17 \\ 1a + 4b+7c=21 \end{cases}}

Given that a , b a,b and c c satisfy the system of equations above, and a + b + c a+b+c is equal to x y \dfrac xy , where x x and y y are coprime positive integers, find x + y x+y .


The answer is 110.

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6 solutions

Anirudha Brahma
Mar 11, 2016
  • Coefficients of first equation are in A.P with a common difference of (-2).
  • Coefficients of second equation are also in A.P with a common difference of 3.
  • Multiplying first equation by the absolute value of the Common difference of the second equation.
  • Multiplying second equation by the absolute value of the Common difference of the first equation.
  • We get,
  • 15 a + 9 b + 3 c = 51 15a + 9b + 3c = 51
  • 2 a + 8 b + 14 c = 42 2a + 8b + 14c = 42
  • Adding both equations we get
  • 17 a + 17 b + 17 c = 93 17a + 17b + 17c = 93
  • a + b + c = 93 17 a + b + c = \dfrac{93}{17}
  • So,
  • 93 + 17 = 110 93 + 17 = \boxed{110}

Moderator note:

Yes, the described system of steps work for this particular case. Tt would be better to explain why/when this would work in a more general setting.

Here is another good problem that you may try. https://brilliant.org/problems/who-gets-the-buck-2/ It has been qualified for level 2 algebra but the no. of solvers required is yet not met.

Shubhrajit Sadhukhan - 1 year, 1 month ago
Jaydee Lucero
Jul 11, 2016

We multiply the first equation by m m and the second equation by n n to get { 5 m a + 3 m b + m c = 17 m n a + 4 n b + 7 n c = 21 n \begin{cases} 5ma+3mb+mc=17m \\ na+4nb+7nc=21n \end{cases} Adding these two equations yields ( 5 m + n ) a + ( 3 m + 4 n ) b + ( m + 7 n ) c = 17 m + 21 n (5m+n)a+(3m+4n)b+(m+7n)c=17m+21n We seek a value of m m and n n such that the above equation will be of the form 1 a + 1 b + 1 c = x y 1a + 1b + 1c = \frac{x}{y} Comparison gives the equations { 5 m + n = 1 3 m + 4 n = 1 m + 7 n = 1 17 m + 21 n = x y \begin{cases} 5m+n=1 \\ 3m+4n=1 \\ m+7n=1 \\ 17m+21n=\frac{x}{y}\end{cases} Solving 5 m + n = 1 5m+n=1 and 3 m + 4 n = 1 3m+4n=1 simultaneously, we get m = 3 17 , n = 2 17 m=\frac{3}{17}, n = \frac{2}{17} To check if such combination is possible, we verify if this satisfies m + 7 n = 1 m+7n=1 m + 7 n = 3 17 + 7 2 17 = 1 m+7n=\frac{3}{17}+7\cdot \frac{2}{17}=1 which checks. Therefore, the obtained values of m m and n n are what we desire. Hence, x y = 17 m + 21 n = 17 3 17 + 21 2 17 = 93 17 \frac{x}{y}=17m+21n=17\cdot \frac{3}{17}+21 \cdot \frac{2}{17}=\frac{93}{17} So, 93 + 17 = 110 93+17=\boxed{110} .

This is a very useful method for solving this type of equations. In order to get an equation of the form a + b + c = x y a+b+c=\frac{x}{y} , we must add up j times of the first equation and k times of the second equation.

Thus, we have 5 j + k = 3 j + 4 k = j + 7 k 5j+k=3j+4k=j+7k Solving, we have j = 1.5 k j=1.5k . Now, let k be any random integer (not 0) and j be the corresponding value. Multiply the first equation by j, the second equation by k and add them up. Then, the answer can be obtained.

Oh my ba god !!!!!! Your amazing. Thanks. Really helpful.

Alan T - 3 years, 5 months ago
Pulkit Gupta
Mar 12, 2016

THE FOLLOWING IS AN OUTLINE

In a three variable equation with only two equations given, we can assume any one of the variables to be zero ( say c=0)

This reduces the problem to solving a two variable, two equation problem.

Solve.

If this method is correct, it works always. But the system with complete matrix of coefficients: [ 5 3 17 17 1 4 0 21 ] \begin{bmatrix} 5 &3& -17& 17\\ 1 &4 & 0 &21 \end{bmatrix} holds a sum that depends of c. For c=1, we obtain another result. So this method isn't the correct one.

Gaetano C. - 1 year ago
Scott Rodham
Jun 23, 2016

I just made a+b+c=d be the third equation and solved for d (=x/y)

Mahmoud Meeda
Mar 3, 2021

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