Twinkle Twinkle Little Star

Geometry Level 1

What is the value of a + b + c + d + e a+b+c+d+e in degrees?


The answer is 180.

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11 solutions

Nihar Mahajan
Oct 10, 2015

Great solution!

There's another interesting approach if we assume that the 5 points of the star lie on a circle. Anyone want to discuss this one?

Eli Ross Staff - 5 years, 8 months ago

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5 inscribed angles. 1/2 the measure of their respective arcs.

Ken Collins - 5 years, 8 months ago

Use the property of angles subtended by same arc and focus on the red quadrilateral. The opposite angles of a cyclic quadrilateral are supplementary , giving us what we require :)

Nihar Mahajan - 5 years, 8 months ago

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How do you attach pictures in comments tho?

Ananya Prakash - 5 years, 6 months ago

Yeaah i would like to

Marwan Saad - 5 years, 8 months ago

Check my solution

Ahmed Obaiedallah - 5 years, 8 months ago

Great solution nice, simple and clear

Ahmed Obaiedallah - 5 years, 8 months ago
Fedor Panafidin
Oct 11, 2015

SIMPLE UNREADABLE SOLUTION

Create a point in the middle of the pentagon. Then create 5 identical triangles from this point where the 2 points of the pentagon are their base angles.

360 / 5 = 72 (the angle of the middle point of your triangle).

(180 - 72) : 2 = 54 (the base angle of the triangle: half of the inside angle of the pentagon)

360 - 54 × 4 = 144 (the 2 angles of the star's triangle. Why 4? See previous step.)

And finaly

180 - 144 = 36 (the angle of one of the triangles points, in this case of a, b, c, d, e)

5 × 36 = 180

P.S.

Don't judge me for the unreadability of this solution. It's the first time I write a one. Thank you for reading!

congratulations, not seen that it is first time. very simple easy way to explain. every body can understand easily..........regards

azadali jivani - 5 years, 8 months ago

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Thank you!

Fedor Panafidin - 5 years, 8 months ago
Scott Ripperda
Oct 11, 2015

The interior angle formula of the a regular polygon is ( n 2 ) 18 0 (n-2)*180^\circ where n is the number of sides, so the sum of the interior angles of the pentagon in the center is ( 5 2 ) 18 0 = 54 0 (5-2)*180^\circ=540^\circ . It is regular such that the angles are equal so that each interior angle equals 54 0 5 = 10 8 \frac{540^\circ}{5}=108^\circ . This lets us find the other two angles of the triangles a, b, c, d, and e since the interior angles of the pentagon and the other angles of the triangles a, b, c, d, and e form straight lines (180 ^\circ ) such that the other angles of the triangles a, b, c, d, and e are equal to 18 0 10 8 = 7 2 180^\circ-108^\circ=72^\circ .

Triangles also have 180 degrees from interior angle formula, which determines that the angles a, b, c, d, and e are equal to 18 0 2 7 2 = 3 6 180^\circ-2*72^\circ=36^\circ . Thus the sum of angles a, b, c, d, and e=(5*36^\circ=180^\circ.

Elbert Rasay
Oct 14, 2015

I KNEW IT! Reading Chinese Comics will get me somewhere

Omg lol xD

Ananya Prakash - 5 years, 6 months ago

Wow lol, if there is an oscar of best comment ull probably laugh when they'll tell u u got it

omar el amrani - 5 years, 6 months ago
Ahmed Obaiedallah
Oct 13, 2015

Draw a circle \space \color{#20A900}{\textbf{a circle}}\space that touches the 5 heads of the star A,B,C,D,E

Now every single one of them forms an Inscribed angle

I n s c r i b e d a n g l e = 1 2 i t s c o r r e s p o n d i n g A r c \Large\color{#3D99F6}{Inscribed \space angle} =\frac12 \color{#3D99F6}{it's \space corresponding \space Arc}

Thus \color{#D61F06}{\textbf{Thus}}

A = 1 2 C D ^ \color{#3D99F6}{\angle A=\frac12 \widehat {CD}}

B = 1 2 D E ^ \color{#3D99F6}{\angle B=\frac12 \widehat {DE}}

C = 1 2 E A ^ \color{#3D99F6}{\angle C=\frac12 \widehat {EA}}

D = 1 2 A B ^ \color{#3D99F6}{\angle D=\frac12 \widehat {AB}}

E = 1 2 B C ^ \color{#3D99F6}{\angle E=\frac12 \widehat {BC}}

And since this is a homogenous star (Assumed just to make it easier to solve quickly)

(hint: contains an Regular pentagon \textbf{Regular pentagon} in it's core)

Then \color{#D61F06}{\textbf{Then}}

A = B = C = D = E \angle A=\angle B=\angle C=\angle D=\angle E

C D ^ = D E ^ = E A ^ = A B ^ = B C ^ = 360 5 = 72 \widehat {CD}=\widehat {DE}=\widehat {EA}=\widehat {AB}=\widehat {BC}=\frac{360}{5}=72

B = C = D = E = A = 1 2 × 72 ^ = 36 \angle B=\angle C=\angle D=\angle E=\angle A=\frac12 \times \widehat {72} =36

So; \color{#D61F06}{\textbf{So;}}

A + B + C + D + E = 5 × A = 5 × 36 = 180 \angle A+\angle B+\angle C+\angle D+\angle E=5\times \angle A=5 \times 36 =\boxed{\color{#D61F06}{180}}

It'll always be the same answer

In case if it's not a Regular shaped star

Substitute in the below equation by the first 5 equations

C D ^ + D E ^ + E A ^ + A B ^ + B C ^ = 360 \widehat {CD}+\widehat {DE}+\widehat {EA}+\widehat {AB}+\widehat {BC}=360

You will get

2 A + 2 B + 2 C + 2 D + 2 E = 360 2\angle A+2\angle B+2\angle C+2\angle D+2\angle E=360

2 ( A + B + C + D + E ) = 360 2(\angle A+\angle B+\angle C+\angle D+\angle E)=360

A + B + C + D + E = 360 2 = 180 \angle A+\angle B+\angle C+\angle D+\angle E=\frac{360}{2}=\boxed{\color{#D61F06}{180}}

Is that what you meant? Eli Ross

That was my answer to the same problem

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Nice solution!

Eli Ross Staff - 5 years, 8 months ago

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Thank you!,

Now you have awakened a dormant question I had back then ,which is

can we solve it with circle even if non of the points fall in the same circle?, I mean if we draw 5 concentric circles is it possible to find a relationship between the points then?

Ahmed Obaiedallah - 5 years, 8 months ago
Arjen Vreugdenhil
Oct 11, 2015

Just for fun, an alternative solution:

Imagine you start at point a a and walk along the figure, passing points c c , e e , b b , d d , and back to a a .

At each point you turn over an angle of 18 0 x 180^\circ-x , where x = a = = e x = a = \cdots = e . The total angle through which you turn is 5 ( 18 0 x ) = 90 0 5 x 5(180^\circ-x) = 900^\circ-5x .

As you do all this, you turn through two four revolutions: a total of 2 360 = 72 0 2\cdot 360 = 720^\circ . Thus we may write 90 0 5 x = 72 0 . 900^\circ-5x = 720^\circ. It follows immediately that 5 x = 900 720 = 18 0 5x = 900 - 720 = 180^\circ , and that is the answer we are looking for. (And, of course, x = 3 6 x = 36^\circ .)

Note: If we had walked the pentagon instead of the star, we would only turn through one revolution. The equation would then be 90 0 5 x = 36 0 900^\circ-5x = 360^\circ , from which x = ( 900 360 ) / 5 = 10 8 x = (900-360)/5 = 108^\circ . This is the angle between sides of the pentagon.

Gary Popkin
Oct 11, 2015

Since the figure does not have to be regular in any way, you can modify it for convenience. Bring angles e and b up toward angle a. As you do so, the measures of angles e and b approach zero, and you are left with \triangle ABC with angles adding to 180 degrees.

J G
Dec 16, 2015

5 triangles can be made using 2 points of the star and one point of the pentagon. Each point of the pentagon therefore has an angle of 180 - (2 of a/b/c/d/e) degrees. The interior angles of a pentagon add up to 540 degrees, and the 5 points add up to 900 - 2a - 2b - 2c - 2d - 2e.
So 900 - 2(a + b + c + d + e) = 540, so a + b + c + d + e = 180

John Soong
Oct 18, 2015

Th simplest solution is noticing that four sides of the pentagon combined with an arm of the star forms a quadrilateral. Assuming the pentagon is a regular pentagon where each angle is 108 degrees, you can solve for the angle in the arm of the star, denoted as theta.

theta = 360 - 3(108) theta = 36

Multiply theta by 5, and you will get 180.

Abhiram Bondada
Oct 17, 2015

We know that sum of all exterior angles of the pentagon is 360 and there are 5 triangles on the sides of pentagon. If we think that the base of the triangles are sides of the pentagon ,sum of those all base angles will be [2 sum of exterior angles] which is equal to 360 2 = 720 . Then sum if angles in all 5 triangles is 180*5 = 900 . Then a+b+c+d+e = 900 -720 = 180.

Sadasiva Panicker
Oct 13, 2015

Creat a pentagon by joining the vertices by line segment, divide each vertex angle as 4 equal angles, 1/4 x (540/5) so each is 18, then a=2x18 = 36, b=36, c=36, d==36 & e=36, Then a+b+c+d+e =36 x 5 = 180

Good solution

Sai Ram - 5 years, 7 months ago

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