Two Math Professors

Two math professors, professor Uno and professor Dos, play chess at the park while reminiscing about their past.

Prof. Uno say, "It just crossed my mind that when we first met, the square of your age contains the same three digits as the square of my age but in a different order."

Prof. Dos reply, "If you take the square of the sum of our ages when we first met and split it into two 2-digit numbers, you will have my age then and your age now."

If the sum of their current ages can be expressed as a 3-digit number a b c \overline{abc} , then calculate a 3 + b 3 + c 3 a^3+b^3+c^3 .


The answer is 153.

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4 solutions

Saya Suka
Feb 10, 2021

Even though this isn't specifically mentioned, and I perfectly understand that this probably wasn't intended to be a hint, but because the arrangement fits, I think a logical solution is possible with this extra clue. That exact hint is that the split was done in the middle and no further rearrangement necessary.

(10a + b)² = 100x + 10y + z

(10c + d)² = {one of the other 5 permutations of 100x + 10y + z}

[10(a + c) + (b + d)]² = 1000a + 100b + 10m + n , with m ≥ c

n, z, {x @ y} = { 1, 4, 5, 6, 9 }
0 is excluded because of it's double appearance, m would also be 0 and if y = z = 0, then you cannot have another 3 digit square with a different order.

The then-ages must be older than 10 and younger than 32 to be within the number of digits mentioned.

Since the oldest possible the younger professor could be THEN by number of digit limitations is 29 (31 is the older guy's oldest possible younger age and we already discarded 0 for z, so 30 is rejected due to the impossibility of two 3-digit numbers), then our 4-digit numbers must be less than 3000. By this, their then-ages must sum at < √3000 = 55, with the younger prof oldest then-age = (55 - 1) / 2 - 1 = 27 - 1 = 26. And by repeatedly using this iteration, we get the his (younger prof) oldest possible younger age to be 24 and their maximum then-sum = 49.

Conversely, if we set one of the then-ages to be 11, their then-sum must be larger than √1100 = 33+, so the other then-age is at least 23.

For their now-sum to be a 3-digit numbers, with 49 as max then-sum, we would need the first meeting to have happened AT LEAST (99 - 49) / 2 + 1 = 25 + 1 = 26 years ago. With that, one of the now-ages must at least be older than 25 + 26 = 51 ≤ 10m + n.

Since the maximal then-sum is around 50, we can actually use 50 special squares. (50 - k)²
= 2500 - 2(50)(k) + k²
= 2500 - 100k + k²
= 100(25 - k) + k²

As we can see, the first term is a multiple of 100, so the tens and ones places are only affected by k², so considering that k² mod 100 ≥ 51, then k = { 8, 9, 13, 14, ... } . Trying these in increasing order gets us a solution of 41² = 1681 = (16 + 25)² from k = 9 with 16² = 256 as a permutation of 25² = 625. (The previous one of 42² = 1764 = (17 + 25)², but 17² = 289 with no square permutation).

Now-sum = 16 - 25 + 2(81) = 153

Answer = 1³ + 5³ + 3³ = 153

Jared Low
Jan 25, 2015

For the first condition: there are 3 sets of 2-digit numbers (whose squares are 3-digit numbers) where their squares have the same digits but in different orders: ( 12 , 21 ) , ( 13 , 14 , 31 ) , ( 16 , 25 ) (12,21),(13,14,31),(16,25) .

Doing trial and error on the 5 possible pairs ( 12 , 21 ) , ( 13 , 14 ) , ( 14 , 31 ) , ( 13 , 31 ) , ( 16 , 25 ) (12,21),(13,14),(14,31),(13,31),(16,25) fulfilling the first condition to test the second condition, we see that only the pair ( 16 , 25 ) (16,25) works, with the square of their sum being 1681 1681 .

We thus have 81 81 being Prof. Uno's current age, 25 25 his age then and 16 16 being Prof. Dos's age then. Prof' Dos's current age is then 16 + ( 81 25 ) = 72 16+(81-25)=72 .

The sum of their ages is then 81 + 72 = 153 81+72=153 , the sum of the cubes of their digits is then 1 3 + 5 3 + 3 3 = 153 1^3+5^3+3^3=\boxed{153} .

Interesting note: As noticed, 153 153 is the sum of the cubes of its digits. It is in fact one of the four possible 3-digit numbers that have this property.

Since you mentioned the 13 & 31 pair, why isn't (13+31)² = 44² = 1936 possible? It has both 1 & 3 for either ages. It could be 13,69 or 13,96 or 31,69 or 31,96 ; for 3 distinct possible solutions :
a) 13 - 31 + 2(69) = 120 ==> 9
b) 13 - 31 + 2(96) = 174 ==> 408
c) 31 - 13 + 2(69) = 156 ==> 342
d) 31 - 13 + 2(96) = 210 ==> 9

Saya Suka - 4 months ago
Sami Amaddah
Mar 22, 2014

If we look at the squares of two digit numbers, we can see that the square of 16 is 256, the square of 25 is 625 ans the square of 16+25=41 is 1681 ( wich contains one of the two ages, as the condition states, "16" and "81"). Since the difference beetween the two is 25-16=9, ans that Professor Dos said that the square of the sum of their ages was giving proffesor one's age at that time, wich happens to be 16, then professor one is 81-9=72 year old, and professor two 81 year old. Then, if we sum these two ages, we get 153, as a=1; b=5 and c=3. then, we have to cube each of these, we have a^3=1 ; b^3=125 and c^3=27. 125+27+1 = 153.

Liu Tianyi
Mar 4, 2014

Their 2 ages are 16 and 25 last time 41^2=1681, so it was 56 years ago Total age = 153 1^3+5^3+3^3=153

Why is this the only solution? Did you solve it by trial and error?

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 3 months ago

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:( Yeah I kinda did it with trial and error, but there wasn't really many cases either...

Liu Tianyi - 7 years, 3 months ago

Can you do that Mr.Calvin? I bit confuse to find those number

Hafizh Ahsan Permana - 7 years, 3 months ago

SIR, IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR LOGIC BEHIND IT ? I MEAN I SOLVED IT BY TAKING ALL POSSIBLE CASES AND THEN CHECKING WHICH ONE SATISFIES THE CONDITIONS. IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR MATHEMATICAL LOGIC BEHIND IT LIKE FORMING AN EQUATION OR SOMETHING ELSE ?

Kushagra Sahni - 7 years, 1 month ago

didn't get this can anyone explain full method :(

Ak Sharma - 7 years, 3 months ago

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Its basically trial and error... theres little to try though

Liu Tianyi - 7 years, 3 months ago

Try and error this is the only pair satisfying both condition ,second condition is important

Gopal Shukla - 7 years, 2 months ago

Why not 12 and 21?33^2=1089...81 and 90 years.

Vedant Cacklur - 7 years, 3 months ago

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"...split it into two 2-digit numbers, you will have my age then and your age now ". Anyway, you can make the other problem by using those numbers. :)

Tunk-Fey Ariawan - 7 years, 3 months ago

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I think there is another pair i don't remember that satisfy the answer to the"New" question.So,no.

Vedant Cacklur - 7 years, 3 months ago

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