Understand the symmetry

Algebra Level 5

x varies over reals

2 x 8 9 x 7 + 20 x 6 33 x 5 + 46 x 4 66 x 3 + 80 x 2 72 x + 32 = 0 2x^{8} - 9x^{7} + 20x^{6} - 33x^{5} + 46x^{4} - 66x^{3} + 80x^{2} - 72x + 32 =0

find the sum of the roots


The answer is 3.

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1 solution

Joel Tan
Nov 2, 2014

0 is not a root. (Constant term is not 0)

Hence we can divide the expression by x 4 x^4 .

We get a very ugly and long expression. However, if we let a = x + 2 x a=x+\frac {2}{x} and substitute it, we obtain

2 a 4 9 a 3 + 4 a 2 + 21 a 18 = 0 2a^{4}-9a^{3}+4a^{2}+21a-18=0

Note that after some trial and error, 1, 2, 3 satisfy the equation. Thus we obtain

2 ( a 1 ) ( a 2 ) ( a 3 ) ( a + 1.5 ) = 0 2 (a-1)(a-2)(a-3)(a+1.5)=0

after long division and the possible values of a a are 1, 2, 3, -1.5.

Now by AM-GM, x + 2 x 2 2 |x+\frac {2}{x}| \geq 2\sqrt {2}

Hence the only possible value of a a such that x x is real is 3. And x + 2 x = 3 x+\frac {2}{x}=3 has two roots 1, 2. Hence the sum is 1+2=3. Nice question!

I've always wondered how to come up with the substitutions in polynomials of high degrees.

Bogdan Simeonov - 6 years, 7 months ago

Can you explain to me why you can't use Vieta's here and just say that the answer is 9/2?

Ryan Tamburrino - 6 years, 7 months ago

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vieta make the answer include imaginaries(i think)

math man - 6 years, 7 months ago

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Ah I think you're correct. And yes I made a quick little mistake in my post, oops!

Ryan Tamburrino - 6 years, 7 months ago

and it is 9/2

math man - 6 years, 7 months ago

Exactly. Nicely done

U Z - 6 years, 7 months ago

clarify that sum of real roots is to be found........................

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