Sequence and series

Algebra Level 3

Let a + b + c = 0 a + b + c = 0 . Evaluate

7 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) 2 ( a 3 + b 3 + c 3 ) ( a 7 + b 7 + c 7 ) \large\ \frac {7{(a^2 + b^2 + c^2)^2}{(a^3 + b^3 + c^3)}}{(a^ 7+ b^7 + c^7)} .


The answer is 12.

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Chew-Seong Cheong
Nov 29, 2018

Relevant wiki: Newton's Identities

Using Newton's sums or Newton's identities and let P n = a n + b n + c n P_n = a^n + b^n + c^n , where n n is a positive integer, S 1 = P 1 = a + b + c = 0 S_1 = P_1 = a+b+c = 0 , S 2 = a b + b c + c a S_2 = ab+bc+ca , and S 3 = a b c S_3 = abc . Then we have:

P 7 = a 7 + b 7 + c 7 = S 1 P 6 S 2 P 5 + S 3 P 4 Recall S 1 = 0 = 0 S 2 ( S 2 P 3 + S 3 P 2 ) + S 3 ( S 2 P 2 + S 3 P 1 ) also P 1 = 0 = S 2 2 P 3 2 S 2 S 3 P 2 = S 2 2 ( S 1 P 2 S 2 P 1 + 3 S 3 ) 2 S 2 S 3 ( S 1 P 1 2 S 2 ) = S 2 2 ( 3 S 3 ) 2 S 2 S 3 ( 2 S 2 ) P 3 = 3 S 3 = 7 S 2 2 S 3 P 2 = 2 S 2 \begin{aligned} P_7 & = a^7+b^7+c^7 \\ & = {\color{#3D99F6}S_1}P_6 - S_2P_5 + S_3P_4 & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Recall }S_1 = 0 \\ & = {\color{#3D99F6}0} - S_2(-S_2P_3+S_3P_2) + S_3(-S_2P_2 + S_3{\color{#3D99F6}P_1}) & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{also }P_1 = 0 \\ & = S_2^2{\color{#3D99F6}P_3} - 2S_2S_3{\color{#D61F06}P_2} \\ & = S_2^2{\color{#3D99F6}(S_1P_2-S_2P_1 + 3S_3)} - 2S_2S_3{\color{#D61F06}(S_1P_1-2S_2)} \\ & = S_2^2{\color{#3D99F6}(3S_3)} - 2S_2S_3{\color{#D61F06}(-2S_2)} & \small \color{#3D99F6} \implies P_3 = 3S_3 \\ & = 7S_2^2S_3 & \small \color{#D61F06} \implies P_2 = - 2S_2 \end{aligned}

Therefore, 7 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) 2 ( a 3 + b 3 + c 3 ) a 7 + b 7 + c 7 = 7 P 2 2 P 3 P 7 = 7 ( 2 S 2 ) 2 ( 3 S 3 ) 7 S 2 2 S 3 = 12 \dfrac {7(a^2+b^2+c^2)^2(a^3+b^3+c^3)}{a^7+b^7+c^7} = \dfrac {7{\color{#D61F06}P_2}^2\color{#3D99F6}P_3}{P_7} = \dfrac {7({\color{#D61F06}-2S_2})^2 ({\color{#3D99F6}3S_3})}{7S_2^2S_3} = \boxed{12} .

@Chew-Seong Cheong , sir how did you wrote P 7 as “S 1*P_6...” ?

Priyanshu Mishra - 2 years, 6 months ago

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Newton's sums method. Refer to the reference.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 2 years, 6 months ago
Priyanshu Mishra
Mar 8, 2019

Just set a , b , c a,b,c as three roots of unity IE ω , ω 2 , 1 \omega, {\omega}^2, 1 and you are done.

We know that, a 3 + b 3 + c 3 = 3 a b c a^3 + b^3 + c^3 = 3abc when a + b + c = 0 c = a b . a + b + c =0 \Rightarrow c = -a - b.

( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) 2 = ( ( a + b + c ) 2 2 ( a b + b c + c a ) ) 2 = ( ( 0 ) 2 2 ( a b + b c + c a ) ) 2 = 4 ( a 2 b 2 + b 2 c 2 + c 2 a 2 + 2 a b c ( a + b + c ) ) = 4 ( a 2 b 2 + b 2 c 2 + c 2 a 2 ) (a^2 + b^2 + c^2)^2 = ((a + b + c) ^2 - 2(ab + bc + ca) )^2 =( (0)^2 - 2(ab + bc + ca))^2 = 4(a^2 b^2 + b^2 c^2 + c^2 a^2 + 2abc( a + b + c) ) =4 ( a^2 b^2 + b^2 c^2 + c^2a^2 )

Using Binomial Theorem ,

a 7 + b 7 + c 7 = a 7 + b 7 + ( a b ) 7 = 7 a b ( a 5 + b 5 + 3 a b ( a 3 + b 3 ) + 5 a 2 b 2 ( a + b ) ) = D a^7 + b^7 + c^7 = a^7 + b^7 + (-a - b)^7 =- 7ab(a^5 + b^5 + 3ab( a^3 + b^3) + 5a^2 b^2 (a + b)) = D

Above expression becomes , 7 × 4 ( a 2 b 2 + b 2 c 2 + c 2 a 2 ) ( 3 a b c ) 7 a b ( a 5 + b 5 + 3 a b ( a 3 + b 3 ) + 5 a 2 b 2 ( a + b ) ) = N D \dfrac {7\times 4(a^2 b^2 + b^2 c^2 + c^2 a^2)(3abc)}{- 7ab(a^5 + b^5 + 3ab( a^3 + b^3) + 5a^2 b^2 (a + b)) } = \dfrac ND

N = ( 12 × 7 ) ( a 2 b 2 + b 2 ( a b ) 2 + ( a b ) 2 a 2 ) ( a b ( a b ) ) = ( 12 × ( 7 a b ( a 5 + b 5 + 2 a b ( a 3 + b 3 + a b 2 + a 2 b ) + 4 a 2 b 2 ( a + b ) ) ) = 12 ( D ) N = (12\times 7)(a^2 b^2 + b^2 (-a -b) ^2 + (-a -b) ^2 a^2 )(ab(-a -b)) = (12\times (-7ab (a^5 + b^5 + 2ab(a^3 + b^3 + ab^2 + a^2 b) + 4a^2 b^2(a + b) )) = 12 (D)

Therefore, N D = 12 × D D = 12 \dfrac ND = \dfrac {12 \times D}{D} = \boxed {12}

The last step might be a bit confusing because I myself am a bit confused. Please let me know if there is a easy way of doing this.

Joshua Lowrance
Nov 28, 2018

I set random values for a a , b b , and c c , such that a + b + c = 0 a+b+c=0 (except the case where a = b = c = 0 a=b=c=0 , because the answer would be indeterminate). I assumed that no matter what the specific values of a a , b b , and c c were, they would yield the same answer, otherwise there would be many different answers, possibly infinite. So I set a = 1 a=1 , b = 1 b=1 , and c = 2 c=-2 . Plug them into the equation and you will get 7 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) 2 ( a 3 + b 3 + c 3 ) ( a 7 + b 7 + c 7 ) = 7 ( ( 1 ) 2 + ( 1 ) 2 + ( 2 ) 2 ) 2 ( ( 1 ) 3 + ( 1 ) 3 + ( 2 ) 3 ) ( ( 1 ) 7 + ( 1 ) 7 + ( 2 ) 7 ) = 12 \frac{7(a^{2}+b^{2}+c^{2})^{2}(a^{3}+b^{3}+c^{3})}{(a^{7}+b^{7}+c^{7})}=\frac{7((1)^{2}+(1)^{2}+(-2)^{2})^{2}((1)^{3}+(1)^{3}+(-2)^{3})}{((1)^{7}+(1)^{7}+(-2)^{7})}=12 .

Then you should even mention that a = b = c 0 a = b = c \neq 0 in your solution.

A Former Brilliant Member - 2 years, 6 months ago

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Good point. I have made the change. Thanks!

Joshua Lowrance - 2 years, 6 months ago

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You are welcome :)

A Former Brilliant Member - 2 years, 6 months ago

It is also not defined if any one of a , b , c a,b,c is 0 (let it be b b ) as that would make a = c a=-c and a 7 + b 7 + c 7 = 0 a^7+b^7+c^7=0

Parth Sankhe - 2 years, 6 months ago

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Nice point, this way none of them can be zero neither in group nor singlely.

A Former Brilliant Member - 2 years, 6 months ago

Hey Parth ! have a look at my solution above, having a bit of trouble, can you please help me out?

A Former Brilliant Member - 2 years, 6 months ago

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