Variable friction on the Horizontal disc

A uniform disc is rotating with angular velocity ω \omega and then it is gently placed horizontally on a rough horizontal surface having a coefficient of friction μ \mu . The total time T T taken by disc to stop rotating completely can be expressed as

T = a b × ω R μ g T\quad =\cfrac { a }{ b } \times \cfrac { \omega R }{ \mu g } .

Find The value of a × b a\times b .

Details:

\bullet 'a' and 'b' are Co-prime positive integers.

This was asked by my friend Lakshya Kumar


The answer is 12.

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1 solution

Deepanshu Gupta
Nov 7, 2014

Image Image Let mass density of ring is " σ \sigma " Consider on the disc an ring element of radius " x " and width " dx " and on this ring consider another circular arc element of width " x d θ xd\theta " which subtends angle of " d θ d\theta " at the centre of ring element. it's mass is " dm " and clearly friction on this element acts tangentially . So we calculate torque on this due to friction and then integrate it !

d m = σ x d θ ( d x ) d f = μ ( d m ) g = σ μ g ( x d x ) d θ \displaystyle{dm\quad =\quad \sigma xd\theta (dx)\\ \\ df\quad =\quad \mu (dm)g\\ \quad \quad \quad =\quad \sigma \mu g(xdx)d\theta } .

Now torque due to this is:

d τ = ( d f ) x d τ = σ μ g ( x 2 d x ) d θ d τ = σ μ g θ = 0 θ = 2 π d θ 0 R x 2 d x τ = 2 π σ μ g R 3 3 . . . . . . . . ( 1 ) τ = I α = m R 2 2 α = σ π R 2 2 α . . . . . . . ( 2 ) α = 4 μ g 3 R 0 = ω α T T = 3 ω R 4 μ g \displaystyle{d\tau \quad =\quad (df)x\quad \\ \\ d\tau \quad =\quad \sigma \mu g({ x }^{ 2 }dx)d\theta \\ \\ \int { d\tau \quad } =\quad \sigma \mu g\int _{ \theta =0 }^{ \theta =2\pi }{ d\theta } \int _{ 0 }^{ R }{ { x }^{ 2 }dx } \\ \\ \tau \quad \quad =\quad \cfrac { 2\pi \sigma \mu g{ R }^{ 3 } }{ 3 } \quad \quad \quad ........\quad (1)\\ \\ \tau \quad =\quad I\alpha \\ \\ \quad \quad =\quad \cfrac { m{ R }^{ 2 } }{ 2 } \alpha \quad \quad \quad \\ \quad \quad =\quad \cfrac { { \sigma \pi R }^{ 2 } }{ 2 } \alpha \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad .......(2)\\ \\ \Rightarrow \quad \alpha \quad =\quad \cfrac { 4\mu g }{ 3R } \\ \\ \quad 0\quad =\quad \omega \quad -\quad \alpha T\\ \\ \Rightarrow \quad \quad \boxed { T\quad =\quad \cfrac { 3\omega R }{ 4\mu g } } \\ } .

Nice solution Deepanshu. :)

I founded angular acceleration by a slightly different method.

I found torque acting on ring with inner and outer radius r r and r + d r r+dr respectively.

Mass of this ring d m dm = 2 π r d r π R 2 m \frac { 2\pi rdr }{ \pi { R }^{ 2 } } m

Now d τ = μ d m g r \int { d\tau } =\int { \mu dmgr }

So torque is 2 3 μ m g R \frac { 2 }{ 3 } \mu mgR

So angular acceleration is 2 3 μ m g R ÷ 1 2 m R 2 = 4 μ g 3 R \frac { 2 }{ 3 } \mu mgR\div \frac { 1 }{ 2 } m{ R }^{ 2 }=\frac { 4\mu g }{ 3R }

I solved this in second attempt because I thought that I have to find the value of a + b a+b . :(

satvik pandey - 6 years, 7 months ago

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Great ! That's nice Approach! :) Initially I also thought this same method but then i feel doubt that is friction on whole ring is constant or variable ... So I left that and starts from more basics And but later I found that it is constant on a ring !! And yes generally we have to calculate 'a + b' Mostly in all question of brilliant so it is our habit So I understand your situation :)

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 7 months ago

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Thank you! :D

satvik pandey - 6 years, 7 months ago

So if we consider the expression of torque due to friction,can we conclude that the point of application of frictional force is at a distance of 2R/3 from the centre of disk?

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 5 months ago

I solved this question recently in IE Irodov.

Soham Dibyachintan - 6 years, 7 months ago

What if the disk was rotating about its periphery.

Kushal Patankar - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Well that is also simple . It just use one level above calculus . But yet simple ! I think great jatin yadav already posted that question. You should serch that .

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 3 months ago

In eq-->(2) you've mistyped R^4 as R^2. Anyways great solution. 👍 Kudos to you

Harshendu Mahto - 3 years, 6 months ago

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