Variation of Jun Shin's problem

Algebra Level 4

( a + 1 ) ( b + 1 ) (a+1)(b+1) If a a and b b are positive reals that satisfy a b ( a + b + 1 ) = 25 ab(a+b+1)=25 ,and the minimum value of the above expression is M, then find M \lfloor{M}\rfloor .


The answer is 10.

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The answer 10 10 is incorrect because there is no pair of ( a , b ) (a,b) exists that gives ( a + 1 ) ( b + 1 ) = 10 (a+1)(b+1) = 10 . Using Langrange multipliers, we note that the expression is minimum when a = b a=b . Then a 2 ( 2 a + 1 ) = 25 a^2(2a+1) = 25 . Solving it, we get a = b = 2.165526506 a = b = 2.165526506 , therefore ( a + 1 ) ( b + 1 ) = 3.16552650 6 2 = 10.02055806 (a+1)(b+1)= 3.165526506^2 = \boxed{10.02055806} .

I have also solved it using graphing and get the same result. Solving b = a 1 + ( a + 1 ) + 4 × 25 / a 2 b = \dfrac{-a-1+\sqrt{(a+1)+4\times25/a}}{2} for different a a and then find the minimum ( a + 1 ) ( b + 1 ) (a+1)(b+1) .

If we expand the expression
ab+b+a+1
Now replace b+a+1 with x and ab with y that would make it x+y We know that the archimedic mean is larger or equal to the geometric mean of which is square root of xy which is 5 the x+y is larger or equal to 5×2=10
Can you please tell me what is wrong here


Ahmed Sami - 5 days, 16 hours ago

I realized the mistake and corrected the problem.

Rajen Kapur - 5 years, 3 months ago

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You corrected the problem but people who are getting 10 now also can get the problem right. You should remove the floor function and change the answer instead, or is it out of your hands?

Kushagra Sahni - 5 years, 3 months ago

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As question does not involve a probe into a and b per se, even those applying a concept to get 10 are on track, IMHO.

Rajen Kapur - 5 years, 3 months ago

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