Keeping The Vowels Apart

How many words can be formed from the letters of the word extra , so that the vowels are never together?

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The vowels of the word "EXTRA" are "E" and "A".


The answer is 72.

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32 solutions

Bhargav Das
Dec 29, 2013

We need to find the no. of words that can be formed from the letters of the word EXTRA conditioned that the vowels are never together. To do this we follow the follow the following steps:

  • STEP 1 : We find the total no. of words that can be formed from the letters of the word EXTRA . No. of such words are:

= 5 P 5 =\ ^{5}\mathrm{P}_{5}

= 5 ! =5!

= 120 =120

  • STEP 2 : Then we consider all the words where the vowels appear together ( E E and A A appear together) and find the no. of such words.( Remember E A EA can itself be arranged into 2 ways ).Therefore, no. of such words are :

= 4 P 4 × 2 P 2 =\ ^{4}\mathrm{P}_{4} \times \ ^{2}\mathrm{P}_{2}

= 4 ! × 2 ! =4! \times 2!

= 24 × 2 =24 \times 2

= 48 =48

  • STEP 3 : Hence, the desired no. of words or the no. of words that can be formed from the letters of the word EXTRA such that the vowels are never together are : = 120 48 =120-48

= 72 . =\boxed{72}.

I thought the question asked for the meaningful words.

Aryaman Maheshwari - 7 years, 5 months ago

But there is no condition that letters cant be repeated.it makes more possibles.

Sankar Rajan - 7 years, 4 months ago

word wərd/ noun 1. a single distinct MEANINGFUL element of speech or writing, used with others (or sometimes alone) to form a sentence and typically shown with a space on either side when written or printed.

Neil Abella - 7 years, 4 months ago

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as far as i know, you cant form 72 words, given the conditions above

Neil Abella - 7 years, 4 months ago

Why 4!x2!?

Jean Lille - 7 years, 3 months ago

i also thought like you

sujit kumar - 7 years, 3 months ago

I thought the question asked for the meaningful words.

Kalpesh Tamakuwala - 7 years, 3 months ago

why 4! x 2!?

Ephraim Raj - 7 years, 3 months ago

they are not meaningful words

A Former Brilliant Member - 7 years, 2 months ago

Eu usei o lema de kaplansky e não deu certo :/ porque ??

Érico Bandeira - 7 years, 2 months ago

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What the hell are telling???

Anuj Shikarkhane - 6 years, 10 months ago

To find the number of words that vowels "E" and "A" are never together , we can first calculate the total number of possible words formed, and then subtract the number of words that vowels "E" and "A" are together .

w o r d s words t h a t that v o w e l s vowels n o t not t o g e t h e r = t o t a l together=total w o r d s w o r d s words-words t h a t that v o w e l s vowels t o g e t h e r together

Let's calculate the total number of words first. Note that the every word has 5 5 letters.

There are 5 5 possibilities(letters) for the 1st letter, 4 4 possibilities for the 2nd letter(because a letter has been used before it, so we need to exclude that letter), 3 3 possibillities for the 3rd letter, 2 2 possibillities for the 4th letter, and 1 1 possibillity for the 5th letter.Total number of words= 5 × 4 × 3 × 2 × 1 = 120 5\times4\times3\times2\times1=120 or 5 P 5 = 5 ! = 120 ^5P_5=5!=120 .

Next, we want to find the number words that the vowels are together .

The position of "E" and 'A' must be adjecent, so the possible positions: EA _ _ _ , AE _ _ _ , _ EA _ _ , _ AE _ _ , _ _ EA _ , _ _ AE _ , _ _ _ EA , _ _ _ AE 8 \rightarrow 8 possibillities.

How about the remaining 3 3 letters(denoted as "_") in the examples? Use the same way as calculating the total of words. 3 3 possibillities for the 1st, 2 2 possibillities for the 2nd, and 1 1 possibilities for the 3rd. 3 P 3 = 3 ! = 6 ^3P_3=3!=6 . Number of words that vowels are together= 8 × 6 = 48 8\times6=48

Therefore, the number of words that vowels "E" and "A" are together = 120 48 = 72 120-48=\boxed{72} . Problem solved! :)

Raghav Dua
Dec 29, 2013

5! - (4! x 2) = 72

The number of ways that the vowels can be together is: 5 ! 5! ways because you can choose 1 of the letters without replacement for each position.
If we know how many ways there are the arrange the word so that the vowels "E" and "A" are together, we can find out how many ways they aren't together by subtracting the total number of ways by the ways "E" and "A" are together.
First, clump the letters "E" and "A" together in order to form the string "EA". The next step is to find out how many places the string "EA" can be placed in the word. To do this, the whole string can be treated as one letter. "EA" _ _ _ _ "EA" _ _ _ _ "EA" _ _ _ _"EA"
It is now obvious that there are 4 4 positions in total where "EA" can be placed .
Then, find out how many ways there are to arrange the other letters: By the same logic we used to find out how many ways there are to arrange all 5 letters, there are 3 ! 3! ways to arrange the letters "X", "T", and "R" independent of where "EA" is .
Finally, there are 2 ! 2! _ or just _ 2 2 ways to arrange the letters inside of the string "EA". ("EA" or "AE")




With these numbers, we can calculate how many ways the letters "EA" are together. The calculation is as follows:
Number of Ways "EA" are Together: = 4 p l a c e m e n t s × 3 ! " T X R " a r r a n g e m e n t s 1 p l a c e m e n t × 2 ! " E A " a r r a n g e m e n t s 1 p l a c e m e n t = 48 w a y s = 4 placements \times \frac{3! "TXR"arrangements}{1 placement} \times \frac{2! "EA" arrangements}{1 placement} = 48 ways .

As stated earlier, the total number of ways for "EXTRA" to be arranged is 5 ! = 120 5! =120 . The number of ways for "EA" not to be next to each other is the total number of arrangements - the ways "EA" are together.
120 120 _ possible arrangements _ 48 - 48 _ ways for "EA" to be together _ = 72 = \boxed{72} __ways for "EA" to not be together.

The given word contains 5 different letters. Considering the vowels EA together and treating them as one letter. Thus the letters to be arranged are XTR (EA) - 4 letters. These letters can be arranged in 4! = 24 ways The vowels EA may be arranged amongst themselves in 2! = 2 ways Number of words, each having vowels together = (24x2) = 48 ways Total number of words formed by using all the letters of the given words = 5! = (5x4x3x2x1) = 120 Number of words, each having vowels never together = (120-48) = 72 ................ HOPE ALL LIKE IT........ :-)

Sharky Kesa
Dec 29, 2013

First, make the permutations start with A A . There are 3 places where E E can go, each which has 6 combinations of R R , T T and X X can go ( 3 ! 3! ). By multiplying 3 3 by 6 6 you get 18 \boxed{18} . Now, we need to find the number of permutations when A A is the second letter. There are 2 places where E E can go, and once again there are 6 combinations for R R , T T and X X in each so 12 \boxed{12} combinations. When A A is the third letter, E E can be in 2 places so 12 \boxed{12} combinations. When A A is the fourth letter, there are 2 places for E E so 12 \boxed{12} combinations. Finally, when A A is the 5th letter, E E can be in 3 places so 18 \boxed{18} combinations. By adding 18, 12, 12, 12 and 18, you get your answer of 72 72 .

Ben Will
Dec 29, 2013

2P2 3P3 4=48

5P5=120

120-72=72

typo in the last line? 120-48=72, not 120-72=72

Sharky Kesa - 7 years, 5 months ago

It should be 120-48....................in the last line

Rutvik Paikine - 7 years, 5 months ago
Jeb Kajra
Sep 24, 2016

You should ask how many"strings" not "words". To most people words have semantic meaning!

Gautam Singh
Apr 8, 2014

Arrangement of Extra = 5! that is nothing but factorial of the number of the character. Let say Ea are together so it can be arrange in two ways. Now Ea together consider one character so now we have 4 place arrangement only means
total number of the arrangement when Ea and together will be = 4! * 2! . so Total Number of arrangement when Ea not together = Total arrangement of the character Without restriction - Total Number of arrangement when Ea are together . and the value is 72

Angad Ingole
Mar 27, 2014

The given word contains 5 different letters. Considering the vowels EA together and treating them as one letter. Thus the letters to be arranged are XTR (EA) - 4 letters. These letters can be arranged in 4! = 24 ways The vowels EA may be arranged amongst themselves in 2! = 2 ways Number of words, each having vowels together = (24x2) = 48 ways Total number of words formed by using all the letters of the given words = 5! = (5x4x3x2x1) = 120 Number of words, each having vowels never together = (120-48) = 72

The given word contains 5 different letters. Considering the vowels EA together and treating them as one letter. Thus the letters to be arranged are XTR (EA) - 4 letters. These letters can be arranged in 4! = 24 ways The vowels EA may be arranged amongst themselves in 2! = 2 ways Number of words, each having vowels together = (24x2) = 48 ways Total number of words formed by using all the letters of the given words = 5! = (5x4x3x2x1) = 120 Number of words, each having vowels never together = (120-48) = 72

Vivek Singh
Mar 16, 2014

Arrange all the consonants as X t r

There are 4 places where vowels can be filled so that they don’t occur simultaneously

No. of ways = 4c2

Total no. of ways = 4c2 * 3! *2! = 72

Kirupa Karan
Mar 6, 2014

5!-4!*2=72

Shubham Poddar
Mar 2, 2014

The total no of words that can be formed are 5!=120.

Now the total no of words when the letters 'e' and 'a' are together will be 4!=24 and the total no of words when the letters 'a' and 'e' are together will be 4!=24.

Hence the required no of words are 120-(24+24)=72.

Joneil Negrite
Feb 23, 2014

ways of arranging the 3 consonants = 3!

ways of putting the 2 vowels in the spaces between the consonants (order matters) = 4P2

for a total of (3!)x(4P2) = 72

Iqbal Hossain
Feb 3, 2014

5! - 4!*2

Ashutosh Sharma
Feb 2, 2014

In the word EXTRA there are five letters out of which 3 are consonants and 2 are vowels total number of words with letters E,X,T,R,A is 5!=120 consider two vowels (EA) as one letter hence there are four letters X,T,R,(EA) then total number of words are 4!=24 now consider two vowels (AE) as one letter hence there are four letters X,T,R,(AE) then total number of words are 4!=24 hence the total number of words in which A and E are not together are 120-(24+24)=72


Vipin Yadav
Feb 2, 2014

The given word contains 5 different letters. Considering the vowels EA together and treating them as one letter. Thus the letters to be arranged are XTR (EA) - 4 letters. These letters can be arranged in 4! = 24 ways The vowels EA may be arranged amongst themselves in 2! = 2 ways Number of words, each having vowels together = (24x2) = 48 ways Total number of words formed by using all the letters of the given words = 5! = (5x4x3x2x1) = 120 Number of words, each having vowels never together = (120-48) = 72

-vipiny35

Ajith Gade
Jan 27, 2014

total words can be formed by extra 5.4.3.2.1.=120 total words as vowels together 4.3.2.1.(2)=48 no of words which vowels are not together 120-48=72

Basma Cte
Jan 22, 2014

The given word contains 5 different letters. Considering the vowels EA together and treating them as one letter. Thus the letters to be arranged are XTR (EA) - 4 letters. These letters can be arranged in 4! = 24 ways The vowels EA may be arranged amongst themselves in 2! = 2 ways Number of words, each having vowels together = (24x2) = 48 ways Total number of words formed by using all the letters of the given words = 5! = (5x4x3x2x1) = 120 Number of words, each having vowels never together = (120-48) = 72

Navjot Singh
Jan 12, 2014

when vowels are together then the letters can be arranged in 48 ways and total 5 letters can be arranged in 120 ways....therefore, the required answer= 120-48=72

Ujjwal Kumar
Jan 11, 2014

first we will find how many words can be formed by keeping vowel(i.e E & A) together

now assume (E & A) as a bundle..then there will 4 different letters= (E & A), X,T,R..

so total no of words by these 4 letters =4!=24

now (E & A) can be interchanged between them by 2! ways.

so total no. of words in which (E & A) are together= 24*2=48.

since from 5 words total no. of words that can be formed(i.e no. of ways in which 5 words can be arranged)=5!=120.

no. of words in which (E & A) are not together =120-48=72

Test User
Jan 10, 2014

Firstly, it can be noted that there are 6 6 locations at which the vowels can be placed (notated by v):

v v v - v - - v v v - - v - v v v - - - v v v - v - v - v v - v - - v v v - - v - v

Because there are two vowels and two positions, there are exactly two permutations to place the vowels in each example, resulting in 12 12 total permutations of the vowels.

To place the consonants in any given vowel permutation, we can begin with the x x - there are three potential positions from which we can choose. Next, the t t is left with two potential positions, and the r r must go in the final consonant slot. This leaves: 3 ! = 3 × 2 × 1 = 6 3! = 3 \times 2 \times 1 = 6 consonant permutations for each vowel permutation, resulting in 6 × 12 = 72 6 \times 12 = \boxed{72} total permutations.

Israel Smith
Jan 10, 2014
  1. Anagrams of "EXTRA": 5 ! 5!
  2. Anagrams such that "E" and "A" be neighbors: 4 ! 2 ! 4!2!
  3. By Inclusion-Exclusion: Anagrams of "EXTRA" such that "E" and "A" don't be neighbors: 5 ! 4 ! . 2 ! 5! - 4!.2!
Caroline Sudipa
Jan 10, 2014

There are 5 letters in the word 'EXTRA' from which we can get 5! different words without any restriction.

Now, if we consider EA as a single block, then we get 4 letters from which we can get 3!*2 words.(multiplying by for for both arrangements AE and EA)

Hence, total words that can be formed from the letters of the word extra, so that the vowels are never together are:

5! - 2*4!=72.

Sorry...it will be 4!*2 in the very second line of the solution.

Caroline Sudipa - 7 years, 5 months ago
Pranav Vashistha
Jan 4, 2014

Total number of words=5!=120

now let us consider A and E as one unit

then we have following elements to form a word

(E,A)X,T,R

total number of ways =48

4!*2! (4! for arranging 4 elements and 2! for arranging E and A)

Now 120-48= 72(Required Answer )

Sushant Ranade
Jan 2, 2014

Total Number of words which can be formed by rearrangement of letters of 'EXTRA' = 5! = 120. Total Number of words which can be formed by rearrangement of letters of 'EXTRA' where vowels are together(e.g 'EAXTR') can be found out by keeping the two vowels 'E' and 'A' together and treating them as a single letter. Number of such words are = 4! = 24. Also these letter in the vowels group can be arranged in 2! = 2 ways. Hence total number of words that can be formed from the letters of the word EXTRA ,so that the vowels are always together = 24 X 2 = 48. Hence total number of words that can be formed from the letters of the word EXTRA ,so that the vowels are never together is = 120 - 48 = 72.

Azizul Islam
Jan 1, 2014

5!-4!x2=72

Cf Paul
Jan 1, 2014

Once positions are chosen for the vowels, there are 3! =6 ways to arrange the consonants. There are 5 positions to place E in the 5 letter word. Making it the first or last letter allows 3 possible positions for A. Putting it in the 3 middle positions only allows two possible positions for A. Hence, no. of words =3!(3+3+2+2+2)=72

Naved Husain
Dec 30, 2013

Total words that can be formed with 5 letters(E,X,T,R,A) will be 5x4x3x2x1=120

Fixing vowels (E,A) together and forming the word with X,T,R , words that can be formed will 4x3x2.also E &A will give 2 combinations. Total words formed with vowels together=4x3x2x2=48

Therefore words formed so that vowels are not together= total words formed- words with vowels together =120-48 =72

Shouldn't they mention that we have to make only 5-letter words?

Rahul Saha - 7 years, 5 months ago
Mesbah Tanvir
Dec 30, 2013

5! - 2 * 4! = 72

Mihir Desai
Dec 29, 2013

The total number of words that can be formed using the letters of the word EXTRA is 5!=120. Now, consider the two vowels A and E to be joined together to form a single letter. Now, the total number of words that can be formed using the letters of this new word is 4!=24. However, the two letters A and E can be interchanged in each of these 24 words. Hence, the number of words that can be formed from the letters of the word EXTRA, so that the two vowels ARE TOGETHER is 24*2=48. Hence, the number of words that can be formed so that the two vowels are not together will be= (Total number of words) - (Number of words in which the two vowels are together) = 120-48= 72. Therefore, the required answer is 72.

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