Wasn't it easy to find an equilateral triangle's side

Geometry Level 4

A B C ABC is an equilateral triangle. D E DE is the tangent to the inscribed circle with D D on A B AB and E E on A C AC . It is given that D E DE perpendicular to A C AC and A E = 10 AE=10 .The side length of A B C ABC can be expressed as a + b c a+b\sqrt{c} where a a and b b are positive integers and c c is square-free positive integer; then find a + b + c a+b+c .


The answer is 43.

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3 solutions

Xuming Liang
Jun 1, 2014

Denote the incircle's tangency on A B , A C , D E AB,AC,DE as X , Y , Z X,Y,Z . Since A D E ADE is a 30 , 60 , 90 30,60,90 triangle, we have A D = 20 , D E = 10 3 AD=20, DE=10\sqrt {3} . Since A B C ABC is equilateral, X , Y X,Y are midpoints of A B , A C AB,AC , hence its side length is equal to A X + A Y = A D + A E + D X + E Y = 30 + D Z + E Z = 30 + D E = 30 + 10 3 AX+AY=AD+AE+DX+EY=30+DZ+EZ=30+DE=30+10\sqrt {3} and our answer is 10 + 30 + 3 = 43 10+30+3=\boxed{43} .

Great solution. In this problem many people forget the quadrilateral B D E C BDEC and focus on other non-required parts.

mietantei conan - 7 years ago

And i dont understand the process of AX + AY

super nigfga - 7 years ago

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Since X and Y are mid-points of AB and AC respectively,

AB=AX+XB=2AX=AX+AY

Kenny Lau - 6 years, 11 months ago

I have a doubt regarding this...I consider the given circle as the incircle and draw the angle bisector of angle A meeting DE at say K. Now in triangle AKE, angle AEK = 90 and as AK is angular bisector so angle KAE = 30 which gives AK = 20/(under root 3). let AK meets BC at M so AM = AK + KM = [20/(under root 3)] + 2r where r is the inradius Also as ABC is equilateral traingle , inradius r = side/(2*root 3) and angle bisector is same as altitude in equilateral traingle so AM also equals (root 3 * side /2) equating the two values of AM gives side = 40.. can you guide me where I am wrong?

manu mehta - 6 years, 11 months ago

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A M A K + 2 r AM\ne AK+2r because AK does not meet the circle.

Kenny Lau - 6 years, 11 months ago

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I guess I got your point...it is not necessary that AM has to touch circle at the point where DE is tangent to it...is it what you are saying...right?

manu mehta - 6 years, 11 months ago

how is DX +EY=DZ+EZ?

Raven Herd - 6 years, 5 months ago

Now that is see it I regret i didnt even thought of using trigonometry

pranav jangir - 7 years ago

Could you please post a picture of your way of thinking? my english is bad so i dont understand where u put the x y and z

super nigfga - 7 years ago

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X is where the circle touches AB.

Y is where the circle touches AC.

Z is where the circle touches DE.

Kenny Lau - 6 years, 11 months ago

How do you know that ADE is a 30,60,90 triangle? Do all equilateral triangles have three 60 degrees?

super nigfga - 7 years ago

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nevermind, just wikipedia'd the definition of that type of triangle.

super nigfga - 7 years ago
Junius Bueno
Jun 30, 2014

The incenter’s center can be found from the intersection of the angle bisectors of the triangle. Given that the triangle is equilateral, a 30-60-90 triangle is formed from the vertex, the point of tangency from AC, and the center. Letting x x be the radius of the circle, 10 + x 3 = x \dfrac{10+x}{\sqrt{3}}=x , solving for x x , x = 5 + 5 3 x=5+5\sqrt{3} . Since the given triangle is equilateral, the point of tangencies are the midpoints of the sides. So side = 2 ( 5 + 5 3 + 10 ) = 2 ( 15 + 5 3 ) = 30 + 10 3 \text{side} =2(5+5\sqrt{3}+10)=2(15+5\sqrt{3})=30+10\sqrt{3} . a + b + c = 30 + 10 + 3 = 43 a+b+c=30+10+3=\boxed{43}

I LaTeX {\LaTeX} 'ed everything. Click the edit button to see the code.

Daniel Liu - 6 years, 11 months ago

You should use L a t e x Latex .

mietantei conan - 6 years, 11 months ago

I did it exactly the same way :D

Kenny Lau - 6 years, 11 months ago
Charles Dutertre
May 25, 2015

Denote the incircle center Z Z , X X the point of tangency of ( D E ) (DE) on the circle and I I the middle of [ A Z ] [AZ] . One can check that Z X E I ZXEI is a square, which side is the radius ( = : r =: r ) of the incircle. Therefore, considering the symmetry, the side length ( = : l =: l ) is : l = 20 + 2 r l = 20 + 2r .

The problem is resumed to finding the radius of the inner circle of an equilateral triangle. Since the bisectors are also the medians, r r is also the centroid, and therefore equal to ont third of the altitude : r = 3 2 l r=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}l . Hence, l = 20 + 2 × 3 2 l = 30 + 10 3 l = 20 + 2 \times \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}l = 30 + 10\sqrt{3}

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