Watering plants the hard way

Alice is holding a garden hose on the ground level and watering plants on the balcony of an apartment. The plants are at 3 m 3\text{ m} elevation relative to the ground. In order to reach the plant, Alice needs to aim the beam of water nearly vertically. If her aim is good, the water will rise slightly above the plant and then fall back to it.

Now, Alice needs to water plants one floor up at 6 m 6\text{ m} elevation. She grabs a ladder, climbs up by 3 m 3\text{ m} with the hose in hand, and aims the water to the pots just the same way as before.

The outcome will be _____________________ . \text{\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_}.

the water will reach the pots just the same way as before the water barely flows from the hose the water flow completely stops the water nearly reaches the pots, but cannot get high enough

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Laszlo Mihaly
Apr 17, 2018

For and ideal liquid, with no viscosity and friction to the wall of the hose, energy conservation holds. This yields the Bernoulli equation, 1 2 ρ v 2 + ρ g h + p = c o n s t . \frac {1}{2} \rho v^2 + \rho g h+p=const. , where ρ \rho is the density, v v is the velocity, g g is the acceleration of gravity, h h is the elevation and p p is the pressure. When the water is out of the hose the pressure is p 0 p_0 , the atmospheric pressure. When the water reaches the elevation of 3m its velocity is approximately zero. We can conclude that the constant in the equation is c o n s t . = ρ g ( 3 m ) + p 0 const.=\rho g (3m)+p_0 .

If Alice climbs up, the pressure in the hose will drop and the velocity of the out-coming water will also drop. These quantities can be determined from 1 2 ρ v 2 + ρ g h + p = ρ g ( 3 m ) + p 0 \frac {1}{2} \rho v^2 + \rho g h+p=\rho g (3m)+p_0 . For example, the pressure in the hose is p 1 = p 0 + ρ g ( 3 m ) 1 2 ρ v 1 2 p_1= p_0+\rho g (3m) - \frac {1}{2} \rho v_1^2 , where v 1 v_1 is the velocity of the water in the hose; the velocity of the water just after leaving the hose satisfies v 2 = 2 g ( 3 m ) v_2 = \sqrt{2 g (3m)} . Since the pressure cannot be less than p 0 p_0 , when she reaches h = h= 3m, the only solution to the equation is v = 0 v=0 and p = p 0 p=p_0 . The flow of water stops.

Water is not an ideal fluid and some of the energy is dissipated. The dissipation increases with the velocity of the flow. Some of the dissipation happens in the hose and the pipes bringing the water to the hose, some (most) happens in the nozzle, where the water speeds up before leaving the hose. Bernoulli’s equation is only approximately correct. For the water to reach 3m in the first job the pressure in the hose has to be a bit more than the value p 1 p_1 we calculated above. This is to compensate for the losses due to the viscosity. As Alice climbs up the ladder and the water flow gets slower, the losses will be smaller. There will be some flow (with low velocity and small loss of energy) even at 3m elevation.

I can still climb on my roof and get plenty of water from my hose (to clean gutters or my swamp cooler). Even though it only shoots in a stream about a meter above my head on the ground without any nozzle.

Your analysis doesn't seem to hold water in real life.

Steven Perkins - 3 years ago

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I think we agree that if you put on a nozzle, it will shoot higher than the roof.

The reason for not going as high without the nozzle is related to the energy loss due to friction-viscosity. Without the nozzle the speed of water flow in the hose (and in the household water system) is large and the losses will be large, too. My arguments are valid as long as the cross section of the tubing is much larger than the cross section of the nozzle.

In my problem the water pressure is a bit low. With normal household water pressure the water should easily go up to 10 meters.

Laszlo Mihaly - 3 years ago

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I would like to try this in a lower pressure environment and see if the amount of height you can get from a nozzle is some indication of the pressure you would lose if you changed the altitude of the end of the hose.

Your calculations are impressive and exceed my limited knowledge of liquid flow.

Steven Perkins - 3 years ago

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