What a chain! 2


A very flexible uniform chain of mass M M and length L L is suspended vertically such that its lower end just touches the surface of the table.

When the upper end of the chain is released, it falls with each link coming to rest the instant it strikes the table.

Find the force exerted by the chain on the table at the moment when y y part of the chain has already come to rest on the table.

Your answer is of the form a M g y L \dfrac { aMgy }{ L } , where a a is a positive integer. Submit the value of a a as your answer.


Details and Assumptions**:

  • The fallen part don't interfere with the falling one.

  • The figure is not to scale.


This is a part of my set Aniket's Mechanics Challenges .


The answer is 3.

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2 solutions

Aniket Sanghi
Mar 11, 2016

The weight of the fallen part is M g y L \dfrac{Mgy}{L} , dalso as the chain is falling .....consider a length dx in it which is just about to fall

N d t = d ( m v ) N \, dt = d(mv)

N = N = v d m d t \dfrac{v dm}{dt}

N = N = v M L \dfrac{v M}{L} d x d t \dfrac{dx}{dt}

N = N = M v 2 L \dfrac{Mv^2}{L}

v = v = ( 2 g y ) . 5 (2gy)^.5

Putting this we get N = N = 2 M g y L \dfrac{2Mgy}{L}

This added to the weight of the fallen part give the total normal reaction

Hence net N = N = 3 M g y L \dfrac{3Mgy}{L}

Avadhoot Sinkar
Mar 15, 2016

I have a few doubts. 1)why have you taken v constant in d(mV) as m is changing v is also changing. 2) how is energy conserved in this case as the locks come to rest by inelastic collision. 3)even if energy conservation is assumed. After y length has fallen, COM moves a distance y/2. ∆PE =√(gy). Please help and sorry if I am wrong.

  1. Ya ...energy is not conserved ....and I have neither told it is conserved.....how can it be conserved if it would have been conserved the whole chain's COM must have velocity ( 2 g y ) . 5 (2gy)^.5 after falling y distance
You are doing mistake in COM as initially it would be at a height of l/2 and after y part fall new height is (y-l)^2/2l

Aniket Sanghi - 5 years, 3 months ago

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Why is v constant?

Harsh Shrivastava - 5 years, 3 months ago

@Aniket Sanghi Sir , can you please explain why is energy not conserved?

Ankit Kumar Jain - 3 years, 3 months ago

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It is because he has mentioned that the chain comes to rest as soon as it makes contact with the table.

Aryan Sanghi - 1 year, 3 months ago

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