What If It Isn't Infinite?

Calculus Level 4

Find the sum of this infinite series:

5 + 11 + 17 + 23 + 29 + 35 + . . . 5+11+17+23+29+35+...

Hint: Look up Ramanujan sum of divergent series.

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2 solutions

Michael Mendrin
Jan 8, 2020

First, let

s 1 = 1 1 + 1 1 + . . . s_1 = 1-1+1-1+...

then

1 s 1 = 1 ( 1 + 1 1 + 1 1 + . . . ) = s 1 1-s_1 = 1 - (1+1-1+1-1+...) = s_1

so that

s 1 = 1 2 s_1 = \dfrac{1}{2}

Now, let

s 2 = 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + . . . s_2 = 1+1+1+1+...
2 s s = 0 + 2 + 0 + 2 + . . . 2s_s = 0+2+0+2+...

Subtracting one from the other, we have

s 2 2 s 2 = 1 1 + 1 1 + . . . = s 1 = 1 2 s_2 - 2s_2 = 1-1+1-1+...=s_1= \dfrac{1}{2}

so that

s 2 = 1 2 s_2 = -\dfrac{1}{2}

Now, let

s 3 = 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + . . . s_3 = 1+2+3+4+...
4 s 3 = 0 + 4 + 0 + 8 + . . . 4s_3 =0+4+0+8+...

Subtracting one from the other, we have

s 3 4 s 3 = 1 2 + 3 4 + . . . s_3-4s_3 = 1-2+3-4+...

But since

1 ( 1 + x ) 2 = 1 2 x + 3 x 2 4 x 3 + . . . \dfrac{1}{(1+x)^2} = 1-2x+3x^2-4x^3+...

Then for x = 1 x=1 , we have

1 ( 1 + 1 ) 2 = 1 4 = 1 2 + 3 4 + . . . \dfrac{1}{(1+1)^2} =\dfrac{1}{4} = 1-2+3-4+...

so that

s 3 4 s 3 = 1 4 s_3-4s_3 = \dfrac{1}{4}

or

s 3 = 1 12 s_3 = -\dfrac{1}{12}

Thus

s 2 + 6 s 3 = 5 + 11 + 17 + 23 + . . . = 0 -s_2 + 6s_3 = 5+11+17+23+... = 0

As another way of checking this,

Z e t a ( 0 ) + 6 Z e t a ( 1 ) = 0 -Zeta(0)+6Zeta(-1) =0

where

Z e t a ( s ) = p = 1 1 p s = 1 1 s + 1 2 s + 1 3 s + 1 4 s + . . . Zeta(s) = \displaystyle\sum _{ p=1 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { 1 }{ { p }^{ s } } } = \dfrac{1}{1^s} + \dfrac{1}{2^s} + \dfrac{1}{3^s} + \dfrac{1}{4^s} + ...

Still another way of checking this is

5 + 11 + 17 + 23 + . . . = k = 1 n ( 6 k 1 ) = 2 n + 3 n 2 5+11+17+23+... =\displaystyle\sum _{ k=1 }^{ n }{ \left( 6k-1 \right) } = 2n+3n^2

Integrating this from n = 1 n=-1 to 0 0 , we have

1 0 ( 2 n + 3 n 2 ) d n = 0 \displaystyle\int _{ -1 }^{ 0 }{ \left( 2n+3{ n }^{ 2 } \right) dn } =0

Check Mathologer for the correct approach to this.

Also check out Sums of Divergent Series

The famous Ramanujan sum is s = 1 + 2 + 3 + = 1 12 s = 1 + 2 + 3 + \ldots = \frac{-1}{12} . The series of this problem can be viewed as 6 s s 2 6s -s_2 , using your s 2 s_2 :

6 s = 6 + 12 + 18 + 6s = 6 + 12 + 18 + \ldots so 6 s s 2 = ( 6 1 ) + ( 12 1 ) + ( 18 1 ) + 6s - s_2 = (6-1) + (12-1) + (18-1) + \ldots . Thus the quantity we are headed toward is 6 12 1 2 = 0. \frac{-6}{12} - \frac{-1}{2} = 0.

I'm still suspicious.

Richard Desper - 1 year, 5 months ago

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no kidding

Michael Mendrin - 1 year, 5 months ago

I split the sum as 5 + Σ ( 5 + 6 n ) 5+\Sigma(5+6n) and so, I got different answer, namely, 5 5 2 6 12 = 5 3 = 2 5-\frac{5}{2}-\frac{6}{12}=5-3=2

คลุง แจ็ค - 1 year, 5 months ago

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I think (though I'm really interested to be corrected here) this fails to work because you're somehow adding two different "types" of number (an ordinary real number, and the result of a divergent sum). You would run into the same problem by saying s 2 = 1 + 1 + 1 + = 1 + ( 1 + 1 + 1 + ) = 1 1 2 = 1 2 s_2=1+1+1+\ldots=1+(1+1+1+\ldots)=1-\frac12=\frac12 (borrowing notation from above). You could prepend as many 1 1 s as you wanted, seemingly giving different sums each time.

However, this is very hand-wavy. I suspect some difficulties arise because of confusing notation, but I've never come across an argument to change the notation. I'd love to see a rigorous explanation of this particular detail.

Chris Lewis - 1 year, 5 months ago

The determination of s 2 s_2 is unstable (see https://brilliant.org/wiki/sums-of-divergent-series/). For instance, s 2 = 1 + 1 + 1 + = 1 + ( 1 + 1 + 1 + ) = 1 + s 2 s_2 = 1+1+1+\ldots = 1+(1+1+1+\ldots) = 1+s_2 , so that s 2 s_2 is undefined if computed this way. If, on the other hand, one writes (as you did) s 2 = 0 + 1 + 0 + 1 + s_2 = 0+1+0+1+\ldots and subtracts term by term from s 2 = 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + s_2 = 1+1+1+1+\ldots , one obtains s 2 s 2 = 0 + 1 + 0 + 1 + = s 2 s_2 - s_2 = 0+1+0+1+\ldots = s_2 , so that s 2 = 0 s_2 = 0 .

Mohd Faraz
Feb 27, 2020

Given series is : 6 n 1 6n-1

s X 3 = s u m n = 1 6 n 1 = 6 ( 1 + 2 + 3 + ) ( 1 + 1 + 1 + ) \ce {s3}=sum_{n=1}^\infty 6n-1= 6(1+2+3+\ldots)-(1+1+1+\ldots)

Michael Mendrin demonstrates in above solution:

s X 1 = 1 + 2 + 3 + = 1 12 \ce {s1} =1+2+3+\ldots=-\frac {1}{12}

s X 2 = 1 + 1 + 1 + = 1 2 \ce {s2} =1+1+1+\ldots=-\frac {1}{2}

s X 3 = 6 s X 1 s X 2 = 6 × 1 12 + 1 2 = 0 \therefore \ce{s3}= 6 \ce{s1} - \ce{s2} =6 \times -\frac {1}{12} +\frac {1}{2} =0

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