What is f(x)?

Algebra Level 4

Let f : R R f\colon\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R} be a function that satisfies the following property.

For all x R x\in \mathbb{R} , f ( x ) 2 = x 2 f(x)^2=x^2 .

Consider the following statements.

[ 1 ] [1] . f ( x ) f(x) has to be equal to x x for all x R x\in\mathbb{R} .

[ 2 ] [2] . f ( x ) f(x) has to be equal to x -x for all x R x\in\mathbb{R} .

[ 3 ] [3] . In fact, f ( x ) f(x) could be one of three things. f ( x ) = x f(x)=x for all real x x , f ( x ) = x f(x)=-x for all real x x and f ( x ) = x f(x)=|x| for all real x x

[ 4 ] [4] . It is impossible to tell what f ( x ) f(x) is.

Which of these statements is correct?

[ 2 ] [2] [ 4 ] [4] [ 1 ] [1] [ 3 ] [3]

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3 solutions

Mursalin Habib
Mar 4, 2015

It is impossible to say what f ( x ) f(x) is.

f ( x ) f(x) could be equal to x x in certain intervals while it could be equal to x -x in other intervals.

Consider this example.

f ( x ) = { x , if π x 2 π x , if x < π or x > 2 π . f(x) = \begin{cases} x, \quad \mbox{if }\quad \pi\leq x \leq 2\pi \\ -x, \quad \mbox{if }\quad x<\pi \quad \text{or}\quad x > 2\pi. \end{cases} .

In fact there are infinite possibilities for f ( x ) f(x) and it is impossible to tell what f ( x ) f(x) is without any additional information.

Nice question. I misread the third option, overlooking the "for all x" part. Oh well...

Just another comment. If continuity is mentioned, then the third option is the correct one, I think.

Rahul Saha - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Nope, even then, the third option is incorrect. Remember ( x ) 2 = x 2 (-|x|)^2=x^2 ?

Raghav Vaidyanathan - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Ah, yes. Thanks for spotting that.

Rahul Saha - 6 years, 3 months ago
Ivan Koswara
Mar 5, 2015

Actually it is possible to tell what f f is, in the sense that we give a complete characterization of all possible f f .

Partition the reals into two subsets A , B A,B arbitrarily. Let f ( x ) = x x A f(x) = x \, \forall x \in A and f ( x ) = x x B f(x) = -x \, \forall x \in B . This is all the solutions.

To see this, observe that f ( x ) 2 = x 2 f(x)^2 = x^2 implies f ( x ) = x |f(x)| = |x| , so f ( x ) = x x f(x) = x \vee -x . However, there is no way to relate f f taken on two different values from just the given equation, so the best we can do is that, f ( x ) = x x f(x) = x \vee -x for all x x . The above simply formalizes this, choosing which give positive values and which give negative values.


Since for each real number besides 0 0 we have two choices for the function, in total we have 2 c 2^\mathfrak{c} such functions where c \mathfrak{c} is the cardinality of the real numbers. Georg Cantor proved that ω < 2 ω \omega < 2^\omega for any cardinal number ω \omega , and in particular c < 2 c \mathfrak{c} < 2^\mathfrak{c} ; thus we have more functions satisfying this condition than there are real numbers!

This is an awesome solution specially because of the last paragraph. Voted up!

Mursalin Habib - 6 years, 3 months ago
Jason Martin
Mar 11, 2015

Consider the function f ( x ) = x f(x)=x when x x is rational, and f ( x ) = x f(x)=-x when x x is irrational. This function satisfies the equation but does not satisfy [ 1 ] [1] , [ 2 ] [2] , or [ 3 ] [3] .

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