Creative Method To Obtain All The Weights

Algebra Level 3

Mr. Gan needs to weigh 5 boys, but his scale can only measure weights of more than 70 70 kg.

Since each boy weighed less than 70 70 kg, he decided to weigh two boys at a time, making a total of ( 5 2 ) = 10 { 5 \choose 2} = 10 weighings.

The readings in kg of the 10 weighings were: 86 , 92 , 96 , 100 , 104 , 109 , 110 , 113 , 119 , 127. 86, 92, 96, 100, 104, 109, 110, 113, 119, 127. What was the weight of the second heaviest boy?


The answer is 59.

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Each of the boys is on the scale a total of 4 times, so the sum of the 10 weighings will be 4 times the weight of the 5 boys together. As the sum of the given values is 1056 1056 kg, we know that the sum of the weights of the 5 boys is 1056 / 4 = 264 1056/4 = 264 kg.

Letting x k , 1 k 5 x_{k}, 1 \le k \le 5 , be the weights of the 5 boys in ascending order, we have that

x 1 + x 2 + x 3 + x 4 + x 5 = 264 , x 1 + x 2 = 86 , x 4 + x 5 = 127 x_{1} + x_{2} + x_{3} + x_{4} + x_{5} = 264, x_{1} + x_{2} = 86, x_{4} + x_{5} = 127 and x 3 + x 5 = 119 x_{3} + x_{5} = 119 .

Then x 3 + x 4 + x 5 = x 1 + x 2 + x 3 + x 4 + x 5 ( x 1 + x 2 ) = 264 86 = 178 x_{3} + x_{4} + x_{5} = x_{1} + x_{2} + x_{3} + x_{4} + x_{5} - (x_{1} + x_{2}) = 264 - 86 = 178 ,

and so x 4 = x 3 + x 4 + x 5 ( x 3 + x 5 ) = 178 119 = 59 x_{4} = x_{3} + x_{4} + x_{5} - (x_{3} + x_{5}) = 178 - 119 = \boxed{59} kg.

Very nice method.

Tim Lister - 4 years, 11 months ago

Very neat solution. I would have another solution posted soon.

Armain Labeeb - 4 years, 12 months ago

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Thanks! Nice problem. The other weights are x 1 = 41 , x 2 = 45 , x 3 = 51 x_{1} = 41, x_{2} = 45, x_{3} = 51 and x 5 = 68 x_{5} = 68 kg.

Brian Charlesworth - 4 years, 12 months ago

Let the weights of the boys be a < b < c < d < e a<b<c<d<e . From the question ,we have

a + b = 86 a + c = 92 c + e = 119 d + e = 127 a+b=86\\a+c=92\\c+e=119\\d+e=127

This implies that

e = a + 27 c = b + 6 d = c + 8 e=a+27\\c=b+6\\d=c+8

Now, consider the sum resulting in 96. It is either a + d a+d or b + c b+c . Clearly it cannot be a + d a+d as d = c + 8 d=c+8 . Hence b + c = 96 b = a + 4 e = d + 9 b+c=96 \Rightarrow b=a+4\Rightarrow e=d+9 . Thus, we have d = a + 18 d = a+18 .

Solving the very first equation, a + b = 86 a+b=86 , we have 2 a + 4 = 86 a = 41 d = a + 18 = 59 2a+4=86\Rightarrow a=41\Rightarrow d = a+18=59 .

I really like this solution, Jerry Tao. I noticed your solution and Brian Charlesworth's solution could be combined:

Let the weights of the boys be a < b < c < d < e a < b < c < d < e . The lowest weight must be the sum of the two lightest boys, meaning:

a + b = 86 a + b = 86

Similarly the second highest weight must be the sum of the heaviest and third heaviest boy:

c + e = 119 c + e = 119

Each of the boys is on the scale a total of 4 times, so the sum of the 10 weighings will be 4 times the weight of the 5 boys together. As the sum of the given values is 1056 1056 kg, we know that the sum of the weights of the 5 boys is 1056 / 4 = 264 1056 / 4 = 264 kg. This gives us the equation:

a + b + c + d + e = 264 a + b + c + d + e = 264

If we subtract the equations from earlier we have:

a + b + c + d + e ( a + b ) ( c + e ) = 264 119 86 d = 59 a + b + c + d + e - (a+b) - (c+e) = 264-119-86 \Leftrightarrow d = 59

Nicolai Kofoed - 4 years, 9 months ago
Hung Woei Neoh
Jun 24, 2016

Now, let the weights of the boys be a , b , c , d , e a,b,c,d,e . The weights here are arranged in ascending order.

Each boy will be weighed 4 4 times within the 10 10 weighings. This means that if we add up all the 10 10 measurements, we get

4 ( a + b + c + d + e ) = 86 + 92 + 96 + 100 + 104 + 109 + 110 + 113 + 119 + 127 a + b + c + d + e = 1056 4 = 264 4(a+b+c+d+e) = 86+92+96+100+104+109+110+113+119+127\\ a+b+c+d+e = \dfrac{1056}{4} = 264

Now, we know that the smallest measurement is for a + b a+b , and the largest measurement is for d + e d+e . This gives:

a + b = 86 d + e = 127 a+b = 86\quad\quad\quad d+e=127

Substitute these two into the equation above:

86 + c + 127 = 264 c = 51 86+c+127 = 264 \implies c = 51

Notice that the second last sum must be c + e c+e . This is because c + e > c + d c+e > c+d and c + e > b + e c+e > b+e . Therefore,

c + e = 119 51 + e = 119 e = 68 c+e = 119\\ 51 + e = 119\\ e= 68

Now, we can find the weight of the second heaviest boy, which is d d :

d + e = 127 d + 68 = 127 d = 59 d+e = 127\\ d+68=127\\ d=\boxed{59}

Note: In a similar method, you can use the first two sums to find a a and b b . The answer would be a = 41 , b = 45 a=41,\;b=45

Great! Actually you can find the weights of all the boys!

Armain Labeeb - 4 years, 11 months ago
Earl Biringer
Aug 26, 2016

I guess I took a shortcut. Total weight of the four boys is 264 (add the 10 numbers together and divide by 4, since each boy is part of 4 pairs). Subtract out the top two (127) and the bottom 2 (86 - NOT 82 as shown in the graphic!). This means the middle boy weighs 51.

The maximum weight for the heaviest is 70 (none can weigh more than 70, or they would be weighed on their own and eliminated from the problem). This means the minimum weight of the second heaviest is 127 - 70 = 57. The maximum weight for the second heaviest would be 63, since 127/2 = 63.5.

The possible weights of the second heaviest or then 57. 58. 59, 60, 61, 62, and 63. Knowing that the middle one weighs 51 and knowing all the pairs of weights, we can whittle the possibilities down to 58, 59, and 62. There is no other numbers on the list of possibilities that when combined with 51 equal one of the 10 results.

This means the heaviest boy weighs 65, 68, or 69. Only 68 will work as neither of the other two possibilities when combined with 51 equal one of the ten results.

So the second heaviest weighs 127 - 68 = 59. Basic arithmetic that can all be done in the head - didn't even need a pencil.

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