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( 5 + i ) i (5+i)^i is a transcendental number.

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Kb E
Nov 18, 2017

As mentioned in Michael Boyd’s solution, the Gelfond-Schneider theorem states that a b a^b is transcendental if a a is algebraic and b b is algebraic and irrational. For the purposes of this theorem, nonreal numbers are considered irrational. The number 5 + i 5+i is algebraic as it is a root of the equation ( x 5 + i ) ( x 5 i ) = x 2 10 x + 26 = 0 (x-5+i)(x-5-i) = x^2-10x+26 = 0 . And the number i i is algebraic as it is a root of x 2 + 1 = 0 x^2+1 =0 and is irrational as it is not a real number. Therefore, ( 5 + i ) i (5+i)^i is transcendental.

Thank you, when working it out I made an error in distributing the ( x 5 + i ) (x-5+i) and ( x 5 i ) (x-5-i) , and I was just coming back on to fix it.

Michael Boyd - 3 years, 6 months ago
Michael Boyd
Nov 18, 2017

Before starting, I'd like to give credit to Kaan Berk Erdogmus for finding an error that I have now fixed.

The Gelfond–Schneider theorem says that for any a b a^b , where a is an algebraic number and b is irrational algebraic, a b a^b must be transcendental. This is, in my opinion, the simplest way to determine if the number is transcendental. We can conclude that ( 5 + i ) (5+i) is algebraic, since it can be the root of the polynomial f ( x ) = x 2 10 x + 26 f(x)=x^2-10x+26 . However, there's another way to confirm the "trancendence" (if that's a word) of the expression. Let's move to the next method.

For this method, we should remember that l n ( z ) = l n z + i A r g ( z ) ln(z)=ln|z|+iArg(z) , for all z = a + b i z=a+bi , where z > 0 |z|>0 .

Next, we can set 5 + i = z 5+i=z , and rewrite the original expression as z i z^i . You could follow this with raising e to the natural log of z i z^i : e l n ( z i ) e^{ln(z^i)}

This can be rewritten again as e i l n ( z ) e^{i*ln(z)} , and now we have l n ( z ) ln(z) alone. Next, recall the method for evaluating the natural log of complex numbers mentioned above: l n ( 5 + i ) = l n 5 + i + i A r g ( 5 + i ) ln(5+i) = ln|5+i| + iArg(5+i)

This can again be rewritten as l n ( 26 ) + i t a n ( 1 / 5 ) ln(\sqrt{26})+i*tan(1/5) so when we plug l n ( z ) ln(z) back into e i l n ( z ) e^{i*ln(z)} , we have: e i ( l n ( 26 ) + i t a n ( 1 / 5 ) e^{i*(ln(\sqrt{26})+i*tan(1/5)} which can be simplified to be e ( i l n ( 26 ) t a n ( 1 / 5 ) e^{(i*ln(\sqrt{26})-tan(1/5)} , and because e c d = e c e d e^{c-d}=\frac{e^c}{e^d} , we can reduce our expression to e i l n 26 e t a n ( 1 / 5 ) \frac{e^{i*ln\sqrt{26}}}{e^{tan(1/5)}}

By the Lindemann–Weierstrass theorem, ln(a) is transcendental if a is algebraic and not equal to 0 or 1. 26 \sqrt{26} is algebraic because it is a root of the polynomial f ( x ) = x 2 26 f(x)=x^2-26 . Additionally, the Lindemann–Weierstrass theorem states that all of the trigonometric functions s i n ( a ) , c o s ( a ) , sin(a), cos(a), and t a n ( a ) tan(a) are transcendental if a a is nonzero and alegebraic. This means t a n ( 1 / 5 ) tan(1/5) is transcendental.

Now, for the end... If we take the natural log of our expression, we're left with: l n ( e i ) + l n ( e l n ( 26 ) ) l n ( e t a n ( 1 / 5 ) ) ln(e^i)+ln(e^{ln(\sqrt{26})})-ln(e^{tan(1/5)}) which can be simplified to:

i + l n ( 26 ) t a n ( 1 5 ) i+ln(\sqrt{26})-tan(\frac{1}{5}) , and since l n ( 26 ) ln(\sqrt{26}) and t a n ( 1 5 ) tan(\frac{1}{5}) are both transcendental and l n ( 26 ) t a n ( 1 5 ) 0 ln(\sqrt{26})-tan(\frac{1}{5}) \neq 0 , the expression must be transcendental. We have now confirmed that ( 5 + i ) i (5+i)^i is transcendental in two ways.

I understand that I made more work of this than needed (such as when I split the exponent of e into a fraction), but in doing so I believe it made the solution more clear in the end. Please let me know if you don't think so.

Michael Boyd - 3 years, 6 months ago

5 + i is algebraic, it is a root of (x-5-i)(x-5+i) = x^2 - 10x + 26 = 0.

kb e - 3 years, 6 months ago

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Yes, thank you again. I made an error while distributing and was left with a -10i, and hastily moved on.

Michael Boyd - 3 years, 6 months ago

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