A sliding rope!

In the figure shown, a uniform mass rope of length 5 m 5 m is released from rest. Find the velocity of the rope as it falls as a function of x x .

  • Assume no length of rope around the pulley, i. e. rope much longer than pulley dimensions.
  • g = 10 m / s 2 g=10m/s^2
The velocity doesn't change with x 2 x \sqrt{2} x 2 x 2x 4 x 4x

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2 solutions

Steven Chase
May 6, 2017

Consider the change in gravitational potential energy of the system. We can think of a length of rope x x being taken from the left and transferred to the right (starting with the initial configuration).

The position of the rope segment's center of mass is originally + x 2 \large{+\frac{x}{2}} , and is x 2 \large{-\frac{x}{2}} after being transferred. The overall change in height of the segment's center of mass is therefore x -x .

The mass of the segment is x L M \large{\frac{x}{L} M} , where L L is the total length and M M is the total mass.

The decrease in gravitational potential energy relative to the start position is:

Δ U = x L M g x = M g L x 2 \large{\Delta U =\frac{x}{L} M g x = \frac{Mg}{L}x^2}

Equate the change in gravitational potential energy to the kinetic energy:

M g L x 2 = 1 2 M v 2 v 2 = 2 g L x 2 = 2 ( 10 ) 5 x 2 = 4 x 2 v = 2 x \large{\frac{Mg}{L}x^2 = \frac{1}{2}M v^2 \\ v^2 = \frac{2g}{L}x^2 = \frac{2(10)}{5}x^2 = 4x^2 \implies \boxed{v = 2x} }

Good one, but as this question is from Newton's Laws chapter, could you do it withou using energy? ;) (Yep, it is possible.)

Vitor Santos - 4 years, 1 month ago

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I bet it is possible. Perhaps you can post that solution.

Steven Chase - 4 years, 1 month ago

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Sorry 'bout the delay but finally it's here.

Vitor Santos - 3 years, 5 months ago
Vitor Santos
Jan 6, 2018

To work this question around, you must consider this is a normal Atwood system. That said, we must write the Second Law for each sides of the rope. F n e t 1 = T m 1 g = m 1 a F n e t 2 = m 2 g T = m 2 a \begin{aligned} F_{net1} = T - m_1 g &= m_1 a \\ F_{net2} = m_2 g - T &= m_2 a \end{aligned} Where the first equation represents the right side of the rope (going up), and the second one represents the left side. Now to solve it, we need to find a relationship between m 1 m_1 and m 2 m_2 . It should be noted that, as the rope slides, m 1 m_1 and m 2 m_2 change in time.

Considering the fact that the rope is uniform we can assume that μ = M 2 L \mu = \dfrac{M}{2L} Where M M is the mass of the rope, and 2 L 2L is the length, in this case, 5 m 5m .

Now, we have: I ) m 1 ( t ) = μ ( L x ) I I ) m 2 ( t ) = μ ( L + x ) \begin{aligned} I) \quad m_1(t) &= \mu \left(L - x \right) \\ II) \quad m_2(t) &= \mu \left(L + x \right) \end{aligned}

Solving the Newton Laws by Adding up: I ) + I I ) : ( m 2 m 1 ) g = ( m 1 + m 2 ) a [ μ ( L + x ) μ ( L x ) ] g = [ μ ( L + x ) + μ ( L x ) ] a 2 μ x g = 2 μ L a a = x g L Rewriting $a$ as v d v d x v d v d x = x g L v d v = x d x ( g L ) 0 v v d v = ( g L ) 0 x x d x v 2 = g x 2 L v = x g L \begin{aligned} &I) + II): \\ &\left( m_2 - m_1 \right)g = \left(m_1 + m_2\right) a \rightarrow \\ \rightarrow &\left[ \mu \left(L + x \right) - \mu \left(L - x \right) \right]g = \left[ \mu \left(L + x \right) + \mu \left(L - x \right) \right]a \rightarrow \\ \rightarrow &2\mu x g = 2 \mu L a \rightarrow a= \frac{xg}{L} \rightarrow \\ &\text{Rewriting \$a\$ as } \dfrac{v \mathrm{d} v}{\mathrm{d}x} \\ \rightarrow &\dfrac{v \mathrm{d} v}{\mathrm{d}x} = \frac{xg}{L} \rightarrow v \mathrm{d} v = x \mathrm{d} x \left(\frac{g}{L}\right) \rightarrow \\ \rightarrow &\int_0^v{v \mathrm{d} v} = \left(\frac{g}{L}\right) \int_0^x x \mathrm{d} x \rightarrow v^2 = \frac{gx^2}{L} \rightarrow \\ \rightarrow &\boxed{v = x \sqrt{\frac{g}{L}}} \end{aligned} If you didn't understood step 7, be sure to checkout Velocity as a derivative here at Brilliant.

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