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Algebra Level 4

{ a + b + c = 0 a 3 + b 3 + c 3 = 3 a 5 + b 5 + c 5 = 10 \large \begin{cases} a+b+c=0 \\ a^{3}+b^{3}+c^{3}=3 \\ a^{5}+b^{5}+c^{5}=10 \end{cases}

If a a , b b and c c are real numbers satisfying the system of equations above, find a 4 + b 4 + c 4 a^4 + b^4 + c^4 .


The answer is 8.

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1 solution

Hung Woei Neoh
May 6, 2016

Relevant wiki: Newton's Identities

a + b + c = 0 a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = p a 3 + b 3 + c 3 = 3 a 4 + b 4 + c 4 = q a 5 + b 5 + c 5 = 10 a+b+c = 0\\ a^2+b^2+c^2=p\\ a^3+b^3+c^3=3\\ a^4+b^4+c^4=q\\ a^5+b^5+c^5=10

Let a b + a c + b c = r ab+ac+bc = r and a b c = s abc = s .

Use Newton's sums to find the values of p , q , r p,q,r and s s .

a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = ( a + b + c ) 2 2 ( a b + a c + b c ) a^2+b^2+c^2 = (a+b+c)^2 - 2(ab+ac+bc)

p = 2 r \implies p=-2r - Eq. (1)

a 3 + b 3 + c 3 = ( a + b + c ) ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) ( a b + a c + b c ) ( a + b + c ) + 3 a b c 3 = 3 s s = 1 a b c = 1 a^3+b^3+c^3 = (a+b+c)(a^2+b^2+c^2) - (ab+ac+bc)(a+b+c) + 3abc\\ 3 = 3s\\ s=1 \implies abc=1

a 4 + b 4 + c 4 = ( a + b + c ) ( a 3 + b 3 + c 3 ) ( a b + a c + b c ) ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) + a b c ( a + b + c ) a^4+b^4+c^4 = (a+b+c)(a^3+b^3+c^3) - (ab+ac+bc)(a^2+b^2+c^2) + abc(a+b+c)

q = p r \implies q=-pr - Eq. (2)

a 5 + b 5 + c 5 = ( a + b + c ) ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 ) ( a b + a c + b c ) ( a 3 + b 3 + c 3 ) + a b c ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) a^5+b^5+c^5 = (a+b+c)(a^4+b^4+c^4) - (ab+ac+bc)(a^3+b^3+c^3) + abc(a^2+b^2+c^2)

10 = 3 r + p \implies 10 = -3r + p - Eq. (3)

We now have 3 linear equations with 3 variables, and we can proceed to solve them.

Substitute Eq. (1) into Eq. (3):

10 = 3 r 2 r r = 2 a b + a c + b c = 2 10 = -3r - 2r\\ r = -2 \implies ab+ac+bc = -2

Therefore,

p = 2 ( 2 ) = 4 a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = 4 p= -2(-2) = 4 \implies a^2+b^2+c^2 = 4

And finally,

q = p r = ( 4 ) ( 2 ) = 8 a 4 + b 4 + c 4 = 8 q=-pr = -(4)(-2) = 8 \implies a^4+b^4+c^4 = \boxed{8}

Excellent solution. Each step explained clearly(+1)

Prince Loomba - 5 years, 1 month ago

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Thanks :) Nice problem here

Hung Woei Neoh - 5 years, 1 month ago

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have you tried this problem log second . Its the best problem I have seen

Prince Loomba - 5 years, 1 month ago

Now the question is only sum of the fourth powers and the answer is 8. Please change your solution accordingly

Prince Loomba - 5 years ago

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Ehh? When was this changed? Ok, I'll change my solution

Hung Woei Neoh - 5 years ago

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These Newtons sums are new to me. Thanks for this. (Obviously 4 and 5 powers)

Prince Loomba - 5 years ago

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