What's the length of the string?

Calculus Level 3

Let n n be a positive integer.

A string is wound symmetrically around a circular rod. The string goes exactly n n times around the rod and the rod has a circumference of n n and a length of 3 n 3n

Find the value of n n for which the length of the string is 20 20 .


The answer is 4.

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2 solutions

No need calculus to solve this problem; just geometry.

Imagine that you apply ink on the string and then roll it on a piece of paper. Then the string will trace a (blue) straight line print on the paper. Since the string has traversed a horizontal distance of n × n = n 2 n \times n = n^2 and a vertical distance of 3 n 3n . The hypotenuse of the right triangle is the length of the string 20 20 . Therefore n 4 + 9 n 2 = 20 n n 2 + 9 = 20 n = 4 \sqrt{n^4 + 9n^2} = 20 \implies n \sqrt{n^2+9} = 20 \implies n = \boxed 4 .

Cool! Geometry is much easier than Calculus. But wouldn't the string be curved, so I don't understand how it would be a straight line?

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Nope, no curve. Just draw a straight line diagonally on a piece of paper and roll it up into a cylinder.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 10 months ago

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Oh! Now that I think of it like that, it makes sense. Thank you sir! Love your solution by the way :)

I had a similar approach! Nice and clear explanation. Upvoted. :)

Vinayak Srivastava - 10 months ago

I think this problem is very similar to this one

Vinayak Srivastava - 10 months ago

Hmm... I thought Calculus was used to prove the uniqueness of the solution, but anyway, same approach:)

Alice Smith - 10 months ago
Rocco Dalto
Aug 9, 2020

Let r r be the radius of the rod.

2 π r = n r = n 2 π 2\pi r = n \implies r = \dfrac{n}{2\pi}

x = n 2 π cos ( θ ) , y = n 2 π sin ( θ ) \implies x = \dfrac{n}{2\pi}\cos(\theta), y = \dfrac{n}{2\pi}\sin(\theta) and z = 3 2 π θ z = \dfrac{3}{2\pi}\theta , where θ [ 0 , 2 π n ] \theta \in [0,2\pi n] .

d x d θ = n 2 π sin ( θ ) , d y d θ = n 2 π cos ( θ ) \implies \dfrac{dx}{d\theta} = -\dfrac{n}{2\pi}\sin(\theta), \dfrac{dy}{d\theta} = \dfrac{n}{2\pi}\cos(\theta) and d z d θ = 3 2 π \dfrac{dz}{d\theta} = \dfrac{3}{2\pi}

\implies the length of the string L = 0 2 π n ( d x d θ ) 2 + ( d y d θ ) 2 + ( d z d θ ) 2 d θ L = \int_{0}^{2\pi n} \sqrt{(\dfrac{dx}{d\theta})^2 + (\dfrac{dy}{d\theta})^2 + (\dfrac{dz}{d\theta})^2} d\theta

= 0 2 π n n 2 + 9 2 π d θ = n 2 + 9 2 π θ 0 2 π n = n n 2 + 9 = 20 = \int_{0}^{2\pi n} \dfrac{\sqrt{n^2 + 9}}{2\pi} d\theta = \dfrac{\sqrt{n^2 + 9}}{2\pi}\theta|_{0}^{2\pi n} = n\sqrt{n^2 + 9} = 20 \implies

n 2 ( n 2 + 9 ) = 400 n 4 + 9 n 2 400 = 0 n 2 = 16 , 25 n = ± 4 , ± 5 i n^2(n^2 + 9) = 400 \implies n^4 + 9n^2 - 400 = 0 \implies n^2 = 16,-25 \implies n = \pm 4, \pm 5i

n = 4 \therefore n = \boxed{4} .

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