Why must there be 10 \sqrt {10} ?

Algebra Level 5

Let x , y , z x, y, z be real numbers such that x 2 + y 2 + z 2 = 1 x^{2}+y^{2}+z^{2}=1 . Find the maximum possible value of 10 x y + y z \sqrt {10} xy+yz .


The answer is 1.65831.

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5 solutions

Led Tasso
Aug 29, 2014

Given is an equation of sphere

x 2 + y 2 + z 2 = 1 x^2+y^2+z^2=1

We write it in parametric form as

x = cos θ x=\cos \theta sin ϕ \sin \phi , y = cos ϕ y=\cos \phi , z = sin θ z=\sin \theta sin ϕ \sin \phi , where θ \theta and ϕ \phi are independent of each other.

After plugging these values in given expression, it can be rewritten as

sin ϕ \sin \phi cos ϕ \cos \phi ( 10 cos θ + sin θ ) (\sqrt{10}\cos \theta+\sin \theta) ,

which clearly (crystal clear to a Level 5 user) has a maximum value equal to

1 2 \frac {1}{2} 10 + 1 \sqrt{10+1} = = 11 2 \frac{\sqrt{11}}{2} , which is approximately equal to 1.658 \boxed{1.658} .

Exactly same way.. I really enjoy this prob becoz my teacher taught me about spherical coordinates in Schodinger's wave model few days ago ..! thats why i am able to solve this prob by using polar cordinates...lolz...!!!

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 9 months ago

F=45 degrees, theta is about 17.55,My hometown Belgrade is 44 and 20 degrees,very close to that point.there is also 45 and 197.55 second solve,other hemisphere

Nikola Djuric - 6 years, 6 months ago

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Wow that's cool

Led Tasso - 6 years, 6 months ago

What a great observation...Cheers !!!

Nishant Sharma - 6 years, 8 months ago

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@Nishant Sharma Thanks :)

Led Tasso - 6 years, 8 months ago
Christopher Boo
Sep 6, 2014

My solution is based on Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality .

x 2 + y 2 + z 2 = 1 x^2+y^2+z^2=1

x 2 + z 2 = 1 y 2 x^2+z^2=1-y^2

By Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality,

( x 2 + z 2 ) ( 10 + 1 ) ( 10 x + z ) 2 (x^2+z^2)(10+1)\geq(\sqrt{10}x+z)^2

11 ( 1 y 2 ) 10 x + z \sqrt{11(1-y^2)}\geq\sqrt{10}x+z

Now, the problem can be written as to find the maximum value of

y 11 ( 1 y 2 ) y\sqrt{11(1-y^2)}

11 ( y 2 y 4 ) \sqrt{11(y^2-y^4)}

By simple derivatives, the maximum value of y 2 y 4 y^2-y^4 for y y is a real number is 1 4 \frac{1}{4} .

Substitute to the expression and we will get

1 1 2 1.658 \frac{\sqrt11}{2}\approx 1.658

derivative of y^2-y^4- shouldn't its maximum value be 1/4 ?? @Christopher Boo

Ashu Dablo - 6 years, 7 months ago

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Yeah, it's a typo, thanks for the correction!

Christopher Boo - 6 years, 7 months ago

Same solution!!!

Abhi Kumbale - 4 years, 8 months ago
Joel Tan
Aug 26, 2014

Firstly we rewrite the ugly expression as an even uglier one: 10 x y + y z = 1 1 1 4 x 1 0 1 2 1 1 1 4 y + 1 1 1 1 4 y 1 1 1 4 z \sqrt{10}xy+yz=11^{\frac{1}{4}}x\frac{10^{\frac{1}{2}}}{11^{\frac{1}{4}}}y+\frac{1}{11^{\frac{1}{4}}}y11^{\frac{1}{4}}z

Now we use the fact that a b a 2 + b 2 2 ab\leq\frac{a^{2}+b^{2}}{2} for all real a , b a, b .

Letting a = 1 1 1 4 x , b = 1 0 1 2 1 1 1 4 y a=11^{\frac{1}{4}}x, b=\frac{10^{\frac{1}{2}}}{11^{\frac{1}{4}}}y Then 1 1 1 4 x 1 0 1 2 1 1 1 4 y 11^{\frac{1}{4}}x\frac{10^{\frac{1}{2}}}{11^{\frac{1}{4}}}y is less than or equal to 1 1 1 2 x 2 + 10 1 1 1 2 y 2 2 \frac {11^{\frac{1}{2}}x^{2}+\frac{10}{11^{\frac{1}{2}}}y^{2}}{2}

Similarly, 1 1 1 1 4 y 1 1 1 4 z 1 1 1 1 2 y 2 + 1 1 1 2 z 2 2 \frac{1}{11^{\frac{1}{4}}}y11^{\frac{1}{4}}z\leq\frac {\frac{1}{11^{\frac{1}{2}}}y^{2}+11^{\frac{1}{2}}z^{2}}{2}

Adding both up, we get 10 x y + y z 11 x 2 + 11 y 2 + 11 z 2 2 = 11 2 \sqrt{10}xy+yz\leq\frac{\sqrt{11}x^{2}+\sqrt{11}y^{2}+\sqrt{11}z^{2}}{2}=\frac{\sqrt{11}}{2} This is approximately 1.658. Also, equality can be achieved when x = 5 11 , y = 1 2 , z = 1 22 x=\sqrt {\frac {5}{11}}, y=\sqrt {\frac {1}{2}}, z=\sqrt {\frac {1}{22}} Hence answer is 1.658.

To generalize, if we want to maximize a x y + b y z axy + byz subject to x 2 + y 2 + z 2 = 1 x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 1 , then we want to find a constant C C such that

a x y + b y z C ( x 2 + y 2 + z 2 ) = C axy + byz \leq C ( x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ) = C

We have a x y C x 2 + a 2 2 C y 2 axy \leq C x^2 + \frac{ a^2}{2C} y^2 and b y z C z 2 + b 2 2 C y 2 byz \leq C z^2 + \frac{ b^2} { 2C} y^2 .

Hence, we need to solve for a 2 2 C + b 2 2 C = C \frac{ a^2}{2C} + \frac{ b^2}{2C} = C , or that 2 C 2 = a 2 + b 2 2C^2 = a^2 + b^2 or that C = a 2 + b 2 2 C = \sqrt{ \frac{ a^2+b^2} { 2} } .

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 9 months ago

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C = a 2 + b 2 2 C=\frac{\sqrt{a^{2}+b^{2}}}{2} , the answer is obtained by this expression

Surekha Jadhav - 6 years, 1 month ago

why do we have a x y C x 2 + a 2 2 C y 2 axy \leq Cx^2 + \frac{a^2}{2C} y^2 ? Moreover, what is the motivation behind such an out of the blue inequaity which solves the problem magically.

Sagnik Saha - 6 years, 7 months ago

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In the previous equation, we want a x y + b y z C ( x 2 + y 2 + z 2 ) axy + byz \leq C ( x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ) . Notice that b y z byz cannot contribute a x 2 x^2 term, which is why we have a x y C x 2 + ? ? axy \leq C x^2 + ?? . Then, to complete it, we apply AM-GM, which tells us that a x y C x 2 + a 2 2 C y 2 axy \leq Cx^2 + \frac{ a^2} { 2C} y^2 .

Ditto for the 2nd inequality.

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 6 months ago
Rasched Haidari
Aug 31, 2014

Using the method of Lagrange multiplier we get, 10 y = 2 x L \sqrt{10} y = 2xL ( Let L L denote the multiplier/the symbol lambda). Also, we get 1 0 x + z = 2 y L \sqrt10x + z = 2yL and y = 2 z L y=2zL . From these equations by substituting for y y we know that 1 0 z = x \sqrt10z=x . By some simple substitution you can find the value of L L to be 11 / 2 \sqrt{11} /2 . Then use the fact that y = 2 z × 11 / 2 y= 2z\times \sqrt{11}/2 and 1 0 z = x \sqrt10z=x to get x x in terms of y y . This will give x = 10 y / 11 x=\sqrt{10}y/\sqrt{11} . Knowing these two last equations we can substitute for y y and z z in the equation given in the question. Solving this new equation will give x = 10 / 22 x=\sqrt{10/22} . Using this value of x x you can find the values of z z and y y which are 1 / 22 \sqrt{1/22} and 11 / 22 \sqrt{11/22} respectively. Then just substitute the values into the expression to get a maximum value of 1.658 \boxed{1.658}

Chan Lye Lee
May 13, 2016

Consider U = 11 ( 10 x y + y z ) = ( 11 y ) ( 10 x + z ) U=\sqrt{11}\left(\sqrt{10}xy+yz\right)=\left(\sqrt{11}y\right)\left(\sqrt{10}x+z\right) .

By AM-GM Inequality, U 11 y 2 + ( 10 x + z ) 2 2 U \le \frac{11y^2+\left(\sqrt{10}x+z\right)^2}{2} .

By Cauchy-Schwartz Inequality, ( x 2 + z 2 ) ( 10 + 1 ) ( 10 x + z ) 2 \left(x^2+z^2\right)(10+1) \ge \left(\sqrt{10}x+z\right)^2 .

Hence, U 11 y 2 + 11 ( x 2 + z 2 ) 2 = 11 2 U\le \frac{11y^2+11\left(x^2+z^2\right)}{2}=\frac{11}{2} .

Now, 10 x y + y z = U 11 11 2 1.658 \sqrt{10}xy+yz =\frac{U}{\sqrt{11}}\le \frac{\sqrt{11}}{2} \approx 1.658 .

The minimum is attained if { x 2 10 = z 2 11 y = 10 x + z \begin{cases}\frac{x^2}{10} &=&z^2 \\ \sqrt{11}y &=& \sqrt{10}x+z\end{cases} , which eventually means that { x = 5 11 y = 1 2 z = 1 22 \begin{cases} x &=& \sqrt{\frac{5}{11}} \\ y &=& \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \\ z &=& \frac{1}{\sqrt{22}} \end{cases} .

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