Why So Rational?

Given a a and b b are distinct real positive number, such that a + a b a+\sqrt{ab} and b + a b b+\sqrt{ab} are rational number, is it true that a a and b b are always rational numbers?

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Calvin Lin Staff
May 12, 2017

Let a + a b = X , b + a b = Y a + \sqrt{ ab } = X, b + \sqrt{ ab } = Y .
X + Y = a + 2 a b + b = ( a + b ) 2 X + Y = a + 2 \sqrt{ab} + b = ( \sqrt{ a } + \sqrt{ b} ) ^ 2 , so X + Y = a + b \sqrt{ X + Y } = \sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b} .
a = a + a b a + b = X X + Y \sqrt{a} = \frac{ a + \sqrt{ab} } { \sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b} } = \frac{ X } { \sqrt{ X + Y } } .
Hence a = X 2 X + Y a = \frac{ X^2 } { X+Y} .
Similarly, b = Y 2 X + Y b = \frac{ Y^2}{ X+Y } .
Thus, both a a and b b are rational.

Note: We didn't require a b a \neq b .

Deeparaj Bhat
May 13, 2017

As a + a b = a ( a + b ) a + \sqrt{ab} = \sqrt{a}(\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b}) and b + a b = b ( a + b ) b + \sqrt{ab} = \sqrt{b}(\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b}) , we see that a b = x \sqrt{\dfrac{a}{b}} = x is rational and positive.

Hence, as a ( 1 + 1 x ) a \left (1+\dfrac{1}{x} \right) is rational, a a is rational. Similarly, b b is rational as b ( 1 + x ) b(1+x) is.

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