Will Archer A Survive Extended...

Three archers, A, B, and C, are standing equidistant from each other, forming an equilateral triangle. The chances that A, B, and C successfully hit a target they aim at are 1 3 \frac { 1 }{ 3 } , 2 3 \frac { 2 }{ 3 } , and 3 3 , \frac { 3 }{ 3 } , respectively.

The three archers will play a survival game. The objective of the game for all players is to kill the other two archers and be the only survivor.

The order of shooting is to be chosen AT RANDOM.

Assuming that all archers will die if he is hit by an arrow aimed at him, and that all archers will make the best possible optimal moves to maximize their chances of winning (surviving), the probability that Archer A wins can be expressed as a b \dfrac{a}{b} where a a and b b are co-prime positive integers.

Find the value of a + b a+b .


The answer is 86.

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2 solutions

Satyen Nabar
Dec 30, 2014

There are 6 possible orders of shooting ---

ABC, ACB, BAC, BCA, CAB, CBA.

1) For CBA, CAB and ACB the probability of survival for A remains 1/3 each. Optimal strategy for C is to shoot B dead. Then A has 1/3 chance of shooting C dead. For last scenario (ACB), A must deliberately miss his shot, allow C to shoot B down and have 1/3 chance of success. Detailed explanation follows...

2) For the scenarios, ABC, BCA and BAC---

The optimum strategy for weak player A is to deliberately miss his first shot. The optimum strategy for players B and C is to take a shot at each other on their turns. Since optimal strategy for A is to miss his shot, the 3 scenarios have identical probability.

Lets take player A. He deliberately misses his shot. Now B takes his shot at C.

1) Scenario 1 - B misses the shot with 1/3 chance.

C on his turn shoots B dead. A shoots at C can now survive with a 1/3 chance. Obviously if he misses he is dead. Total chance of survival = 1/3 * 1/3 = 1/9

2) Scenario 2 -- B shoots down C with 2/3 chance.

Now its between A and B. A shoots B dead with 1/3 chance on first round.

But if A misses, he still has a chance if B misses as well. So A misses with 2/3 chance, B misses with 1/3 chance, then A shoots B dead with 1/3 chance in the next turn. This can continue infinitely setting up a geometric series in the bracket

1/3 { 1 + 2/9 + (2/9)^2 + (2/9)^3......} which sums up to 1/3 *9/7 = 3/7.

This is multiplied by 2/3 so its 2/7.

Total Probability of both scenarios = 1/9 + 2/7 = 25/63.

Now to prove that C missing first shot deliberately is best strategy.

1) A takes the first shot at B.

a) In this case, if A hits B he is a goner since C will hit A with certainty.

b)Therefore, the only way A can win is if he misses but in this case, the situation is just as it was before, when A shot to miss. Since White has a 2/3 chance of missing, and from above we know that A has a 25/63 chance of winning if he misses, this shows that the probability of A winning is 2/3 * 25/63 = 50/189 in this case, or roughly 26.5%

2) A takes first shot at C.

a) If he misses the shot, The scenario is the exact same as above and he wins with a 50/189 chance.

b) If he shoots C dead (1/3), A can only win if B misses his shot (1/3), and then A wins the face-off against B (3/7). So its 1/3 * 1/3 * 3/7 = 1/21.

Therefore the total probability that A will win if he shoots at C is 50/189 + 1/21 = 59/189, which is roughly 31.2%...

Finally the combined probabilities of all 6 scenarios = 1/6 (1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 + 25/63 + 25/63+25/63) = 23/63

23+ 63 = 86.

Thank you for such a detailed solution!

Not many people ever write out every step in solving tedious problems like these! >.<

Jeff Chen - 6 years, 5 months ago

WHAT !!!

My bad ; I thought that random meant that the person who is to shoot is to be decided randomly ; which is why I thought AAABBBCAA as a possible case.

Would you mind if I extend your "Will Archer A survive". I am asking because I dont want to get messed up in copyright issues ... ;D

Here ; Try this

Santanu Banerjee - 6 years, 5 months ago

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U r most welcome Santanu!

Satyen Nabar - 6 years, 5 months ago
Tony Li
Dec 31, 2014

Actually, the only order which matters is the order of B and C. Because no matter in which order A is put, he will intentionally miss fire ANYWAY if both B and C are alive, and if one of them kills the other, A will have the first shot at the survivor anyway. So we just need to simply put two scenarios: 1: B fires later than C 2:B fires earlier than C Each scenario has a \frac {1}{2} chance of happening If 1 happens, B is surely killed by C, and A has \frac {1}{3} chance to win when shooting against C, thus a \frac {1}{2} X \frac {1}{3} = \frac {1}{6}chance for A to win in this condition

If 2 happens, there will be two branches: (1) : B misses, the chance of which is \frac {1}{3} and A has \frac {1}{3} chance to win, thus \frac {1}{2} X\frac {1}{3}X \frac {1}{3} = \frac {1}{18}chance for A to win in this condition (2): B kills C, chance of which is \frac {2}{3}. Then A will have a \frac {3}{7} chance to win ( It is expalined in the problem "Will archer A survive" , mainly 3/7 is obtained through \frac {1}{3} + \frac {2}{9}+\frac {2}{9}^2+...), thus \frac {1}{2} X \frac {2}{3} X \frac {3}{7} = \frac {1}{7} chance for A to win in this condition

Adding all the chances for A to win under all different conditions get \frac {1}{6} + \frac {1}{18}+ \frac {1}{7} = \frac {23}{63}, so a=23 b=63, a+b = 86

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