Will Ben win?

A circle is circumscribed about an equilateral triangle creating a dart board. Alex and Ben take turns randomly throwing darts at the board. The first player to hit inside the triangle is the winner. If Ben goes second, what is the probability that he wins? Assume that all of their throws land inside the circle, and round your answer to two decimal places.


The answer is 0.37.

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4 solutions

Richard Desper
May 4, 2020

Calculating probability of Ben's win without using geometric series:

Let p p be the probability of the first player winning on the first throw, and p w p_{w} be the probability of the first player winning the match.

Since the players throw equally well, it is clear that one of two things must happen:

1) With probability p p , Alex wins on the first throw.

2) With probability ( 1 p ) (1-p) , Alex misses the triangle on the first throw. Conditioned on this miss, Ben will win with probability p w p_w .

Thus p w = p + ( 1 p ) ( 1 p w ) . p_w = p + (1-p)(1-p_w). We may solve this for p w p_w :

p w = 1 2 p p_w = \frac{1}{2 - p}

(All numbers below are approximations.)

Plug in p = 0.413497 p = 0.413497 (the ratio of the area of an inscribed equilateral triangle to the area of the circle containing said triangle) and we get

p w = 0.630317 p_w = 0.630317 .

This is the probability that Alex wins (remember: Alex goes first). The probability that Ben wins is 1 p w = 0.369683 , 1 - p_w = 0.369683, which rounds to 0.37 0.37

but when you ignore the being second to take part and try to find out the probability by geometry we get 71% chance to hit in the equilateral triangle. and in question they did't mention that we can't use the geometrical way to find it, and if that is given that ben is going to second didn't mean that we have to use that info.

trupal panchal - 1 year, 1 month ago

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The probability p p of a given player hitting the equilateral triangle is not 71%. It's 3 3 4 π 0.413497. \frac{3\sqrt{3}}{4\pi} \approx 0.413497.

Patrick Corn - 1 year ago
Vinod Kumar
May 4, 2020

Sum of infinite series qp+qqqp+qqqqqp+... =q/(1+q)=0.3697

p=(area of triangle)/(area of circle)

=~0.4135

q=1-p

Ron Gallagher
May 4, 2020

Without loss of generality, let the length of a side of the triangle be 2 units. An application of the Pythagorean theorem shows that the height of the triangle is sqrt(3), so that the (Area of the triangle) = (1/2) (Base) (Height) = sqrt(3). If R is the radius of the circle, another application of the Pythagorean theorem shows that (sqrt(3)- R)^2 +1^2 = R^2, so that R = 2/sqrt(3). Hence, the (Area of the Circle) = (Pi) R^2 = 4 Pi/3. Therefore, the probability of a player hitting inside the triangle on any throw is (Area of Triangle) / (Area of Circle) = 3 sqrt(3) / (4 (Pi)), which is approximately equal to .413497. Call this probability y. Then, the probability of missing on any given throw is n = 1 - y, which is approximately .5865.

Ben can win in any of the following ways. Alex can miss his first throw, then Ben can hit his first (with probability n y). Or, Alex can miss, Ben can miss, Alex can miss, then Ben can hit (with probability y (n^3)). Or, Alex can miss, Ben can miss, Alex can miss, Ben can miss, Alex can miss, then Ben can hit (probability y*(n^5)). And so on. Summing over all of these probabilities gives:

Probability Ben wins = y n + y (n^3) + y (n^5) + ... = n y/(1-n^2) = .37. The penultimate equality follows from summing the geometric series.

Pop Wong
May 17, 2020
Pr(Hit the dart board) 3 ( 3 ) 4 π \frac{3\sqrt(3)}{4\pi}
Pr(Miss) P m P_m 4 π 3 ( 3 ) 4 π \frac{4\pi-3\sqrt(3)}{4\pi}

Let P a P_a be Pr(Alex win), P b P_b be Pr(Ben win)

P a + P b = 1 P_a + P_b = 1

If Alex missed the first trial, then Ben will be first player on the game.

P b P_b = Pr(Alex missed at first trial) * Pr(The first player win) = P m P_m P a P_a

P b / P m + P b = 1 P b = P m 1 + P m P_b / P_m + P_b = 1 \Rightarrow P_b = \frac{P_m}{ 1 + P_m}

P b = 4 π 3 ( 3 ) 8 π 3 ( 3 ) P_b = \frac{4\pi-3\sqrt(3)}{8\pi-3\sqrt(3)} = 0.3697

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