Winter solstice

Geometry Level 2

Approximately how long is the daytime (the time between sunrise and sunset) on the 2 1 st 21^\text{st} of December in Paris?

Note: Paris is on the latitude ϕ = 4 9 . \phi = 49^\circ. The Earth is tilted at an angle of ψ = 23. 4 \psi = 23.4^\circ relative to its axis of rotation.

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Markus Michelmann
Oct 17, 2017

We first consider the case without the inclination of the earth, so that all points on the earth move through the rotation of the earth on circular paths parallel to the xy-plane: r = R ( cos ϕ cos θ cos ϕ sin θ sin ϕ ) \vec r \,'= R \left( \begin{array}{c} \cos \phi \cos \theta \\ \cos \phi \sin \theta \\ \sin \phi \end{array} \right) with the angle θ = ω t \theta = \omega t in the xy-plane, which takes values ​​from 0 0^\circ to 36 0 360^\circ over a day. The vector r \vec r in the inclined reference system is obtained by multiplication by a corresponding rotation matrix r = ( cos ψ 0 sin ψ 0 1 0 sin ψ 0 cos ψ ) r = ( cos ψ cos ϕ cos θ + sin ψ sin ϕ cos ϕ sin θ sin ψ cos ϕ cos θ + cos ψ sin ϕ ) \vec r = \left( \begin{array}{ccc} \cos \psi & 0 & \sin \psi \\ 0 & 1 & 0 \\ - \sin \psi & 0 & \cos \psi \end{array} \right) \cdot \vec r\,' = \left( \begin{array}{c} \cos \psi \cos \phi \cos \theta + \sin \psi \sin \phi \\ \cos \phi \sin \theta \\ - \sin \psi \cos \phi \cos \theta + \cos \psi \sin \phi \end{array} \right) The boundary between day and nigth is at x = 0 x= 0 , so that 0 = cos ψ cos ϕ cos θ + sin ψ sin ϕ θ = arccos [ tan ψ tan ϕ ] ± 6 0 \begin{aligned} 0 &= \cos \psi \cos \phi \cos \theta + \sin \psi \sin \phi \\ \Rightarrow \quad \theta &= - \arccos\left[ \tan \psi \tan \phi \right] \approx \pm 60^\circ \end{aligned} Therefore, the arc on the day side has a total angle of Δ θ = 12 0 \Delta \theta = 120^\circ , s.d. the daytime results to Δ t = Δ θ 36 0 24 h 8 h \Delta t = \frac{\Delta \theta}{360^\circ} 24\,\text{h} \approx 8 \,\text{h}

Moderator note:

December 2 1 st 21^{\text{st}} is the winter solstice, that is, the day of the year when the Northern Hemisphere has the shortest amount of sunlight and the Southern Hemisphere has the longest.

This indicates the Northern Hemisphere is in full axial tilt away from the sun. Incidentally, the 23. 4 23.4^{\circ} is not constant; it varies between 22. 1 22.1^{\circ} and 24. 5 24.5^{\circ} over a cycle of roughly 41,000 years. (Currently, the tilt angle is roughly halfway through the decreasing part of the cycle.)

Incidentally, this variation contributes to the glacial cycle, i.e. ice ages.

I know this may seem like a bit much to ask, but is there a more intuitive way to explain the solution and also explain where the mathematics describing it comes from?

Matthew Agona - 3 years, 7 months ago

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My solution relies on linear algebra and uses spherical coordinates and a rotation matrix . I can't explain these concepts here in this comment, because each of these topics would need their own wiki page. I choosed this calculation method, because the calculation is very straightforward, if you are familiar with all these concepts. The advantage of linear algebra is that it does not rely on a geometric construction.

The solution of Grady Crossley is more intuitive, because he use only twodimensional trigonometry.

Markus Michelmann - 3 years, 6 months ago

Small typo: the - sign in the rotated r vector should be a + + sign.

Also, I don't quite understand why you have used spherical coordinates as radius-latitude-longitude when ψ \psi in your figure denotes a colatitude angle.

Baptiste P. - 3 years, 6 months ago

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Thanks, I changed the minus into a plus sign. I treated the angle ψ \psi just as a rotation angle. If I would transform the coordinates from latitude to colatitude angles, this would only change the rotation direction, so that ψ \psi becomes negative.

Markus Michelmann - 3 years, 6 months ago
Grady Crossley
Nov 12, 2017

This problem can be solved with simple 2d trigonometry. In order to solve it, we will look at two cross sections of the earth. The first is a side view, it passes through the center of the earth and the poles, and is perpendicular to the plane which forms the day/night divide.

The second cross section passes through the entire latitude that Paris is on. It is perpendicular to the first cross section. The following image is the view from above. Note that the points A, B, C, and D in the first cross section are the same as points A, B, C, and D in the second cross section.

From here, we can use trigonometry to find the angle 'a'.

From the first diagram:

d h \frac{d}{h} = tan ψ (1)

h r \frac{h}{r} = tan ϕ (2)

Multiplying (1) and (2) we get:

d r \frac{d}{r} = tan ψ tan ϕ

From the second diagram:

cos a = d r \frac{d}{r} = tan ψ tan ϕ

a = arccos(tan ψ tan ϕ)

= arccos(tan 23.4° tan 49°)

= 60.14°

The angle that Paris travels through during the day is 2a or 120.29°.

So, the ratio of the amount of time Paris spends in the sun to the amount of time during a complete revolution of the earth is 120.29 ° 360 ° \frac{120.29°}{360°}

The length of the day in Paris is the above ratio multiplied by 24 hours. 120.29 ° 360 ° \frac{120.29°}{360°} * 24 = 8.02 hours

what app did you use for the figures? they are nicely illustrated.

Mehdi K. - 3 years, 7 months ago

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Thanks! Inkscape. It was kind of a pain though, there's probably better ones. But its free.

Grady Crossley - 3 years, 7 months ago

I like your diagrams as well: very clear and intuitive.

It looks like you have r defined differently in Figure 1 and Figure 2. In Figure 2, r is the radius of the Earth. In Figure 1 it is the radius of the Earth times cosine of the latitude.

G Silb - 3 years, 6 months ago

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Its the radius of the Earth times cosine of the latitude in both pictures.The second figure is a slice through the earth at the latitude of Paris, so it is parallel to but north of the equator. This means that the diameter of the circle in the second figure is smaller than the diameter of the circle in the first figure (i.e. the r in the second circle is smaller than the radius of the earth). The line in the first circle pointed to by the labels, "latitude of Paris/cross section B" is the diameter of the second circle, and you can see from the first figure that that line is shorter than the diameter of the earth. I labeled some points in the drawings to try to make them more clear.

Grady Crossley - 3 years, 6 months ago

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Oh, I see. Thanks!

G Silb - 3 years, 6 months ago

3d is too complicated for me. My drawings are always horrendous. Therefore I did the same as you.

Pierre Stöber - 3 years, 6 months ago
James Wilson
Nov 8, 2017

I considered a sphere of radius 1 centered at the origin with the y-axis the axis of rotation. Then I drew a plane through the origin and perpendicular to the xy-plane that formed an angle ψ \psi counterclockwise from the positive y-axis to represent the division line of the half light and half dark side (call it plane 1). Then I drew another plane perpendicular to the xy-plane and parallel to the x-axis that crossed the point ( 0 , sin ϕ , 0 ) (0,\sin{\phi},0) , which contains the circle that Paris lies on (call it plane 2). The intersection of these two planes with the xy-plane form a diameter and a chord (resp.) of the circle that is given by the intersection of the sphere and the xy-plane. Next, I found the equation of plane 1, which was y = ( cot ψ ) x y=-(\cot{\psi})x ; then found the equation of plane 2, which was y = sin ϕ y=\sin{\phi} . Setting them equal allowed me to find the x-value of the intersection point: x = sin ϕ tan ψ x=-\sin{\phi}\tan{\psi} . Next, form a 2-D coordinate system within plane 2 with its origin at its intersection with the y-axis, call its axes u and v, and make them parallel to the x- and z-axes respectively. Scale the axes so that the proportion of any distance measured by the x- or y-axis and that same distance measured by the u- or v-axis is cos ϕ \cos{\phi} . The intersection of plane 1 and plane 2 is a line that lies entirely in the uv-plane. The equation of this line is given by u = sin ϕ tan ψ cos ϕ = tan ϕ tan ψ u=\frac{-\sin{\phi}\tan{\psi}}{\cos{\phi}}=-\tan{\phi}\tan{\psi} (division by cos ϕ \cos{\phi} is due to the difference in scale). Likewise, the intersection of the sphere with the uv-plane is a circle of radius 1 centered at the origin. The goal now is to find the distance along the circle that lies to the left of the line (the bright side), and determine what proportion of the entire circle it is. Using the arc length formula from calculus, the distance can be given by 2 1 tan ϕ tan ψ 1 + u 2 1 u 2 d u = 2 1 tan ϕ tan ψ 1 1 u 2 d u = 2 [ arcsin u ] 1 tan ϕ tan ψ 2.0995 2\int_{-1}^{-\tan{\phi}\tan{\psi}}\sqrt{1+\frac{u^2}{1-u^2}}du=2\int_{-1}^{-\tan{\phi}\tan{\psi}}\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-u^2}}du=2[\arcsin{u}]_{-1}^{-\tan{\phi}\tan{\psi}}\approx 2.0995 . Dividing this by 2 π 2\pi , and multiplying by 24 24 (hours in a day), I get 8.0193 8.0193 hours.

The last part where I used the arc length formula could have been done alternatively without the use of calculus. You could set cos θ = tan ϕ tan ψ \cos{\theta}=-\tan{\phi}\tan{\psi} (where cos θ \cos{\theta} represents the u-value on the circle). Say the solutions θ \theta to this equation that lie in the interval [ 0 , 2 π [0,2\pi ) are given by θ 1 \theta_1 and θ 2 \theta_2 such that θ 2 > θ 1 \theta_2>\theta_1 . The answer would then be given by θ 2 θ 1 2 π 24 \frac{\theta_2-\theta_1}{2\pi}\cdot 24 .

James Wilson - 3 years, 7 months ago

I live at the same latitude. I just aproximatively calculated sunset - sunrise at that time period. I'm a lazy person but result is correct, so I don't care.

William Astle
Nov 11, 2017

I "cheated". Since I live in a city a short-ish distance north of 49° latitude and I know from direct experience that daylight here is on the high side between 7 and 8 hours on the winter solstice, I used my intuition about how far it actually is to 49° from here and concluded that 8 was the most reasonable answer. Of course, that's not mathematically rigorous. However, direct experience with a real world problem is something you risk when posing a real world problem. Of course, I knew I could apply some geometry and trigonometry to the problem but I figured why should I do that when I don't have to?

funny but you don't get to have a nice equation where you can simply plug numbers

Pierre Stöber - 3 years, 6 months ago

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