X and Y

Algebra Level 4

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The answer is 8.

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5 solutions

Parth Lohomi
Nov 12, 2014

Squaring both side and simplifying we get

2 x 2 2x^{2} + 2 y 2 2y^{2} = 2 2 2^{2}

x 2 x^{2} + y 2 y^{2} = 2 2

so for maximum value of the asked expression

x 2 x^{2} + y 2 y^{2} -6 x x

so -6 x x is m a x i m u m maximum when x x = 1 -1

on putting values we get 2 + ( 6 ) ( 1 ) 2+(-6)(-1) = 8 \boxed{8}

Wouldn't squaring both sides give x 2 + y 2 + x 2 y 2 = 2 x^{2} + y^{2} + |x^{2} - y^{2}| = 2

And the question has got the second term wrong -6x instead of -6xy as per the solutions.

Pramod Kasi - 6 years, 7 months ago

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No, the square of any modular function is always positive

Parth Lohomi - 6 years, 7 months ago

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What I meant was, if you read carefully, the question says find the max value of x 2 6 x + y 2 x^{2} - 6x + y^{2} .

Secondly, squaring both sides should proceed as x + y 2 + x y 2 + 2 x 2 y 2 = 2 2 |x + y|^{2} + |x-y|^{2} + 2|x^{2}-y^{2}| = 2^{2} on simplifying, = > x 2 + y 2 + x 2 y 2 = 2 => x^{2} + y^{2} + |x^{2}-y^{2}| = 2

Pramod Kasi - 6 years, 7 months ago

-6 x x is correct we will take x x as - 1 so that - 6 x x =+6

Parth Lohomi - 6 years, 7 months ago

T h e e q u a t i o n l e a d s t o f o u r o p t i o n s . X + Y + X Y = ± 2. X = ± 1. X + Y X + Y = ± 2. Y = ± 1. W h a t e v e r o p t i o n s w e t a k e X 2 + Y 2 = 2. T o m a x i m i z e w e s h o u l d h a v e m a x i m u m = t i v e v a l u e o f 6 X . T h i s i s p o s s i b l e i f X = 1 , a n d 6 X = 6 , M a x . = 2 + 6 = 8. The~ equation~ leads~ to~ four~ options.\\ X+Y+X-Y=\pm~2.~~~\implies~X=\pm~1.\\ X+Y-X+Y=\pm~2.~~~\implies~Y=\pm~1.\\ What~ ever~ options~ we~ take~X^2+Y^2=2.\\ To~maximize~we~should~have~maximum~=tive~value~of~-6X.\\ This~is~possible~if~X=-1,~~and~~-6X=6,\\ Max.=2+6=\Large~~\color{#D61F06}{8}.

Michael Yi
Dec 26, 2014

We can split the part we're trying to optimize: x^2 - 6x + y^2 >>>> (x^2-6x) + y^2. The negatives of the expression became pointless because of the squared monomials except in the (-6x) part. Thus, we can optimize this by making, x , into a large negative number. It is optimized at x = -1 because any lower of a number would not allow the original equation to follow through for the sum of the absolute values would always be greater than 2.

Logically, x = - 1 and y = 1 >> maximum value = 8

Jaideep Mitra
Nov 15, 2014

|x| has property of making a number +ve when +ve no change

when -ve it multiplies -1

u will have 4 eqns like that

select the max value of x & y from them

then put it in exp the ans is 8

|x+y|+|x-y|=2

sqrt(x^2+y^2)+sqrt(x^2-y^2)=2

converting to for (a+b)^2 = a^2+b^2+2ab

we get x^2+y^2+sqrt(x^2-y^2)=2

so the only possible way is x^2+y^2=1 and sqrt(x^2-y^2)=1

solving both of them x=+ or - 1 y=+ or -1

so x=-1 and y=+ or -1 gives maximum value and it is 8.

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