x x = y y x^x=y^y part 2

Algebra Level 4

The graph of x x = y y x^x =y^y where x x and y y are in the interval ( 0 , 1 ) (0,1) consists of a curve and a straight line (which is y = x y=x ), as shown. Let the intersection point be ( p , p ) (p,p) . Find the value of 100000 p \lfloor 100000p \rfloor .


Notation: \lfloor \cdot \rfloor denotes the floor function .


The answer is 36787.

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2 solutions

Chan Lye Lee
May 15, 2017

Let y = r x y=rx where r 1 r \neq 1 . Now x x = y y x^x=y^y implies that x ln x = y ln y = r x ln ( r x ) = r x ( ln r + ln x ) x \ln x = y \ln y = rx \ln(rx) = rx \left(\ln r + \ln x\right) . This means that ln x = r ln r 1 r \ln x=\frac{r \ln r}{1-r} . Now lim r 1 r ln r 1 r = lim r 1 r ( 1 r ) + ln r 1 = 1 \displaystyle\lim_{r \to 1}\frac{r \ln r}{1-r} = \lim_{r \to 1}\frac{r \left(\frac{1}{r}\right) + \ln r}{-1} =-1 and so p = lim r 1 x = e 1 0.36787944 p=\displaystyle\lim_{r \to 1} x = e^{-1} \approx 0.36787944 .

Hence 100000 p = 36787 \lfloor 100000p \rfloor = \boxed{36787} .

Chris Cooper
May 28, 2017

x x = y y x^x=y^y

x l n x = y l n y x ln x = y ln y

Let f ( x ) = x l n x f(x) = x ln x

By evaluating graph of f(x), x and y can take different values to each other if a horizontal line cuts the graph twice. We seek a value where x=y and a horizontal line is tangent to the graph.

So: f ( x ) = 1 + l n x f'(x)=1 + ln x which gives f ( x ) = 0 f'(x)=0 for x = 1 e x = \frac{1}{e}

p = 1 e p=\frac{1}{e}

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