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If a , b R a,b\in \mathbb{R} such that E = ( a b ) 2 + ( 2 a b ) 2 + ( 2 a 3 b ) 2 E=\sqrt { { (a-b) }^{ 2 }+ (2-a-b )^{ 2 }+{ (2a-3b) }^{ 2 } } And If minimum value of E E can be expressed as E m i n = m n { E }_{ min }=\frac { m }{ \sqrt { n } } where m , n m,n are integers such that n n is a square free integer, then find the value of m + n \displaystyle \mathrm{m + n} .


The answer is 32.

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6 solutions

Deepanshu Gupta
Sep 20, 2014

\displaystyle{Let\quad Two\quad points\quad P\quad and\quad Q\quad in\quad co-ordinate\quad XYZ\quad Plane\\ such\quad that\quad \quad P(a,2-a,2a)\quad and\quad Q(b,b,3b)\\ Now\quad 'P'\quad Lies\quad on\quad Line\quad \frac { x }{ 1 } =\frac { y-2 }{ -1 } =\frac { z }{ 2 } \\ In\quad Vector\quad form\quad { eq }^{ n }\quad is:\\ \quad \xrightarrow { r } =\quad 2\overset { \^ }{ j } +\quad \lambda (\overset { \^ }{ i } -\overset { \^ }{ j } +2\overset { \^ }{ k } )\\ \\ Similarly\quad Q\quad lies\quad on\quad line\quad (I\quad write\quad Directly\quad Vector\quad form\quad of\quad { eq }^{ n })\quad is:\\ \xrightarrow { r } =\quad \mu (\overset { \^ }{ i } +\overset { \^ }{ j } +3\overset { \^ }{ k } )\\ \\ Now\quad To\quad minimize\quad 'E'\quad We\quad Have\quad to\quad find\quad out\\ Shortest\quad Distance\quad Between\quad The\quad two\quad given\quad lines\\ which\quad can\quad be\quad determined\quad easily.\\ \Longrightarrow \quad { E }_{ min }=\frac { 2 }{ \sqrt { 30 } } \\ so\quad m=2\quad \& \quad n=30} .

one can also use multivariable calculus to calculate the minima, by equating the partial derivatives of (E^2) to zero and then solving for "a" and "b". That would yield "a" = (17/15) and "b" = 4/5 . Then one can easily get the minima to be "2/(sqroot(30)) and hence the answer to be 32

Priyash Singh - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Yes you can use it...But i want some algebraic solution that's why i post this question in Algebra section not in Calculus Section....!! Here Calculus Kills beauty of This Question. And also can you Prove that it is minimum not Maximum Value By using Partial Derivative ? ?

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 8 months ago

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yes, we can do so by finding double partial derivatives and using the hessian matrix's determinant value.

Priyash Singh - 6 years, 8 months ago

Bro, that was genius, hatsoff @Deepanshu Gupta

i am sorry i used partial derivatives, truely killed the awesomeness of this question

But your way was wonderful, i couldnt even guess that using 3d geometries would do the job, +1

Mvs Saketh - 6 years, 2 months ago
Joel Tan
Sep 23, 2014

By QM-AM inequality,

( 0.2 a 0.2 b ) 2 + ( 0.2 a 0.2 b ) 2 + . . . + ( 0.2 a 0.2 b ) 2 + ( 2 a b ) 2 + ( 1.5 b a ) 2 + ( 1.5 b a ) 2 + . . . + ( 1.5 b a ) 2 30 ( 0.2 a 0.2 b ) + ( 0.2 a 0.2 b ) + . . . + ( 0.2 a 0.2 b ) + ( 2 a b ) + ( 1.5 b a ) + ( 1.5 b a ) + . . . + ( 1.5 b a ) 30 = 2 30 = 1 15 \sqrt {\frac {(0.2a-0.2b)^{2}+(0.2a-0.2b)^{2}+...+(0.2a-0.2b)^{2}+(2-a-b)^{2}+(1.5b-a)^{2}+(1.5b-a)^{2}+...+(1.5b-a)^{2}}{30}} \geq \frac {(0.2a-0.2b)+(0.2a-0.2b)+...+(0.2a-0.2b)+(2-a-b)+(1.5b-a)+(1.5b-a)+...+(1.5b-a)}{30}=\frac {2}{30}=\frac {1}{15}

Here there are 25 terms of ( 0.2 a 0.2 b ) 2 (0.2a-0.2b)^{2} , 4 terms of ( 1.5 b a ) 2 (1.5b-a)^{2} and one term of ( 2 a b ) 2 (2-a-b)^{2} . Hence the answer is 2 30 \frac {2}{\sqrt {30}} . Equality can occur when ( a , b ) = ( 17 15 , 4 5 ) (a, b)=(\frac {17}{15}, \frac {4}{5})

The QM-AM inequality is a form of Cauchy-Schwarz inequality. It states that the arithmetic mean of the squares in a set of real numbers, when square rooted, is greater than their arithmetic mean.

This is the best solution.

Arif Ahmed - 6 years, 8 months ago

how did you conclude that you have divide (a-b)^2 into 25 terms .....and (2a-3b)^2 into 4 terms

Yash Sharma - 6 years, 2 months ago

My solution too! :)

Soumava Pal - 5 years, 2 months ago
Kee Aun Ooi
Nov 11, 2014

L e t x = a b , y = a + b Let\ x = a-b , y = a+b\\ E 2 = x 2 + ( 2 y ) 2 + ( 5 2 x 1 2 y ) 2 E^2 = x^2 + (2-y)^2 + ( \frac{5}{2}x - \frac{1}{2}y)^2\\ E 2 = 29 4 ( x 5 29 y ) 2 + 30 29 ( y 29 15 ) 2 + 2 15 E^2=\frac{29}{4}(x-\frac{5}{29}y)^2+\frac{30}{29}(y-\frac{29}{15})^2+\frac{2}{15}\\ E m i n 2 = 2 15 E^2_{min} = \frac{2}{15}\\ H e n c e , E m i n = 2 30 Hence,\ E_{min} = \frac{2}{\sqrt{30}}\\

Ahmed El-Moneim
Sep 22, 2014

E = f (a,b)

to find the minimum then f ' (a) = 0 & f ' (b) = 0

f ' (a) = 0

a - b = 1/3 ------------Eq (1)

f ' (b) = 0

11b - 6 a = 2 ------------Eq (2)

From 1 & 2

a = 17/15 , b = 12/15

Then E = 2/ sqrt (30)

m + n = 32

Samuel Li
Dec 14, 2017

Let a = 5 , 1 , 2 \vec{a} = \langle 5, 1, - 2\rangle and b = a b , 2 a b , 2 a 3 b \vec{b} = \langle a-b, 2-a-b, 2a-3b\rangle . Note that a = 30 |\vec{a}| = \sqrt{30} and b = E |\vec{b}| = E . By Cauchy-Schwarz, we have E 30 = a b a b = 2 E\sqrt{30} = |\vec{a}||\vec{b}| \geq \vec{a} \cdot \vec{b} = 2 . Therefore E 2 30 32 E \geq \frac{2}{\sqrt{30}} \rightarrow \boxed{32} .

Rohan Shinde
Dec 7, 2018

Just employ Cauchy Schwarz Inequality as ( ( b a ) 2 + ( a + b 2 ) 2 + ( 2 a 3 b ) 2 ) ( 25 4 + 1 4 + 1 ) ( 5 ( b a ) 2 + a + b 2 2 + ( 2 a 3 b ) ) 2 = 1 \left( (b-a)^2+(a+b-2)^2+(2a-3b)^2\right)\left(\frac {25}{4} +\frac {1}{4} +1\right)\ge \left(\frac {5(b-a)}{2}+\frac {a+b-2}{2}+(2a-3b)\right) ^2=1

And hence follows the answer.

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