You shall not spin!

A uniform rod of length 2 2 m and mass 16 16 kg is thrown vertically from the ground, such that the top of the rod reaches a height of h h (from the ground). At the moment that it reaches its apex, a ball of mass 3 3 kg traveling horizontally hits the top of the rod with a velocity of 10 10 ms 1 ^{-1} and binds to the very end of the rod. The rod now starts to spin. It perfectly completes one full rotation and then hits the ground.

Find h h in meters.

Details and Assumptions

  • The ball is a point particle.
  • The rod has no cross-sectional area.
  • There is no air friction.
  • A complete rotation indicates that after rotating through an angle, the ball-rod system is vertical again, with the ball at the top.


The answer is 20.7426.

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1 solution

Brilliant Physics Staff
Nov 6, 2015

Since there is no external torque, we have Δ L = 0 \Delta L = 0 , thus the system conserves angular momentum. Prior to the collision, L L comes entirely from the movement of the ball. After the collision, L L comes from the ball-and-rod spinning about the center of mass of the system.

This suggests the center of mass as the simplest point about which we can calculate L L .

If m m is the mass of the ball, and M M the mass of the rod, we have the position of the center of mass as

r COM = m × 0 + M × / 2 m + M = 2 M m + M r_\text{COM} = \frac{m\times 0 + M \times \ell / 2}{m + M} = \frac{\ell}{2}\frac{M}{m + M}

The moment of inertia of the ball-and-rod is then

I = m r COM 2 + M r COM L r COM r 2 d r = 2 M ( 4 m + M ) 12 ( m + M ) \begin{aligned} I &= m r_\text{COM}^2 + \frac{M}{\ell}\int\limits_{-r_\text{COM}}^{L-r_\text{COM}} r^2 dr \\ &= \frac{\ell^2 M\left(4m+M\right)}{12\left(m+M\right)} \end{aligned}

Employing Δ L = 0 \Delta L = 0 , we can say I ω = m r COM v I\omega = m r_\text{COM} v , and thus ω = 6 m v L ( 4 m + M ) \omega = \frac{6mv}{L\left(4m+M\right)} .

Now, we want the ball-and-rod to perform one rotation before hitting the ground. It takes the time 2 ( h l ) / g \sqrt{2(h-l)/g} for the ball-and-rod to hit the ground, thus we have 2 π = ω 2 ( h l ) / g 2\pi = \omega \sqrt{2(h-l)/g} .

Solving this relation for h h yields l + g 2 ( 4 m + M ) 2 π 2 18 m 2 v 2 \displaystyle l+\frac{g\ell^2\left(4m+M\right)^2\pi^2}{18m^2v^2} .

I Got My First Answer as 20.7426 m as i think the centre of mass must shift by h- l . if possible please post a diagram as it is difficult to think of what the author wants to say. but then i thought that i should try by taking h in place of h-l . But Strictly speaking i think answer should be 20.7426m. in expression for time of flight there should be h-l in place of h

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 3 months ago

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I got 20.7426 only

Aniket Sanghi - 4 years, 6 months ago

Yes the answer is 20.7426

Aniket Sanghi - 4 years, 6 months ago

This is definitely not a level 2 problem . deserves atleast level 4

@Aniket Sanghi

Prakhar Bindal - 4 years, 3 months ago

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Yeah bro I agree...

Aniket Sanghi - 4 years, 3 months ago

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