This arose from Sandeep's problem Do you know its property - 9
Starting question. If two functions \(f\) and \(g\) are periodic, is \( f+g \) also periodic?
Be warned that this note requires significant mathematical maturity, which is why I set it at level 5.
Note: The LCM of 2 real numbers is defined in the same way. Find the smallest positive number (if it exists) such that for some integers , we have .
Claim 1: If the fundamental period of is and the fundamental period of is , then the fundamental period of is the LCM of ?
Is this claim true? No, not necessarily. We only know that their LCM must be a period, but it need not be the fundamental period. There could be a smaller period due to cancellation (see Krishna's comment). What is true, is the following:
Fact: If the period of is and the period of is , and is rational, then a period of is the LCM of .
That leaves us to consider the irrational case.
Claim 2: If the period of is and the period of is , and is irrational, then is never periodic.
It is easy to find examples where is not periodic, like . However, must this statement be always true?
We know that there is no obvious candidate for a period, but can't there be some "weird" functions which cancel out, like in the rational case? The following 4 hints will guide us through the rest of this investigation. You should try working on these hints first, before reading further
Hint 1: Prove that a continuous periodic function is bounded.
Hint 2: Prove that if and are both continuous, periodic, non-constant functions with irrational ratios, then is not periodic.
Hint 3: Find a function that is not constant, whose periods is dense in but the set of periods is not . Note: The function is not continuous.
Hint 4: Now find and with irrational ratio of periods, such that is periodic (and non-constant).
Note: I used the Axiom of Choice (which I believe in).
Proof of hint 1. Let be a continuous, periodic function with period . Suppose that is not bounded. That means that for any , there exists an such that . WLOG, we may assume that , as we translate it to the first period.
Since the points lie in the closed interval , there exists an accumulation point, which means that there is a certain subsequence which converges to . Since is a continuous function, we have . But the RHS tends to infinity, which contradicts the assumption that is finite. Hence, the assumption is false, and is bounded.
Proof of hint 2. We first prove the following claim:
Claim If a function is continuous, periodic, and it's periods are dense in , then it is the constant function.
This follows immediately by considering , where is a period of . It is dense in , and their values are all equal. By continuity, it is the constant function.
Now, on to the proof. Suppose that and are continuous, periodic, non-constant functions with irrational period ratio, and is periodic. If is the constant function, then we can show that and must have the same period, which contradicts the assumption. Hence, we may assume that has a smallest period .
We are given that . Define , which is a continuous function (since it is the difference of 2 continuous functions).
For any pair of integers , observe that
This implies that the function is periodic with period . But since the ratio is irrational, this implies that is dense in , and thus must be a constant, which we will denote by .
If , then which is an unbounded sequence, contradicting Hint 1.
If , then and are both periodic with period . Now, at least one of or is irrational (WLOG, let it be the first ). Once again, this implies that is dense in , and thus that is a constant function. However, this contradicts the assumption.
Hence, what we can conclude at this point is
Fact: If is a continuous periodic function, then either is constant, or has a fundamental period (smallest).
Fact: If and are continuous, periodic, non-constant functions with an irrational ratio of fundamental periods, then is not periodic.
The claim is true, if we restrict out attention to only continuous functions.
Now, we move on to the fun and interesting part. The world is extremely well-behaved (relatively) when functions are continuous. Let's observe what happens when things go crazy.
Proof of Hint 3. Consider the function
This function is periodic, and the set of periods is all rational numbers. This is dense in , but is not .
In particular, this shows us that a non-continuous, non-constant periodic function need not have a fundamental period.
Proof of Hint 4. We know that are rational-linearly independent. What this means is that if , where are rational numbers, then .
Define the rational span of to be the set of all numbers of the form .
Let be the characteristic function of the rational span of , and and similarly defined.
Then, set and . Then, we have is a period of , is a period of and is a period of .
Thus, we have 2 functions with irrational ratio of periods, but sum to give a periodic function.
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What an amazing observation you've just shared!! I'm astonished!! Let me think..
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I've added the details on how to proceed. It would still be worthwhile to consider and work through the hints yourself.
This claim is not always true.
If both the functions are even and complimentary to each other(differ by phase difference of 2π) then the period is
L.C.M of 21( α & β)
Example:-
f = ∣sinx∣
g = ∣cosx∣
f + g = ∣sinx∣+∣cosx∣
Here period of 'f + g' is 2π
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For rational ratios, what would be the correct claim?
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On further investigation I found only 2 exceptions of the claim, one I discussed above and the other when function converts into a constant value or constant function(LCM Method fails here)
Ex:-
f = sin2x
g = cos2x
f + g = sin2x + cos2x = 1
Function is periodic but fundamental period is not defined
Similarly
f + g = sec2x - tan2x = 1
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As mentioned in "Fact", all that we know is "a period of f+g is the LCM". As you brought up, we are not guaranteed that f+g must have a fundamental period.
But Calvin sir here has brought a very interesting question. That the sum function is still periodic even when their LCM doesn't exist.
'Time' Period???? :-)
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Aah! Fixed it
Let LCM of T1 & T2 be T then T will be the period of (f+g), provided there does not exist a positive number K(<T) for which f(x+K)+g(x+K)=f(x)+g(x) else K will be the period. Generally the situation arises due to the interchanging of f(x) and g(x) by addition of the positive number K. In case of (∣sinx∣+∣cosx∣) ∣sinx∣ & ∣cosx∣ interchanged by adding 2π & the result being∣cosx∣+∣sinx∣=∣sinx∣+∣cosx∣ hence the period is 2π instead of π.
So, the interesting case occurs when βα is irrational.
Question: Does there exist 2 functions f and g, with fundamental periods α,β and βα=Q, such that f+g is periodic?
Hint: Prove that if f and g are bounded, then f+g is not periodic.
Hint: Prove that if f and g are continuous and periodic, then they are bounded.
Hint: Consider what happens if f and g are not continuous.
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L.C.M of irrational with similar irrational is defined
But L.C.M of rational with irrational is not defined(called as aperiodic or not periodic)
Example :-
f + g = sinx + {x} (fractional part of 'x')
Is aperiodic
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The point of the above comment is to get people to think about proving, or disproving, the following:
It is true that in a lot of cases, f+g is aperiodic. But, can we create a scenario where f+g is periodic?? This is interesting, because I currently believe that the answer is "There is such a function!"
Do not simply repeat what you believe, or what you recall someone else saying is true. Instead, find a justification of your statements.
If only period is concerned one such example is f(x)=sinx & g(x)=0. But if you talk about fundamental period i can't think of any example. Do you have any?? @Calvin Lin
Find the period of Y=tanx/sin (2/3) x and y=sinx*cos3x
Verrryyy nice mr calvin
Is this a high level of mathematical maturity?? Cause all these things were taught to me by my mathematics teacher recently. I'm currently in class 12th.
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The start is easy to understand. Claim 1 and claim 2 are often commonly stated, and often without any proof. However, neither claims are true. Claim 1 is easily fixed, but Claim 2 is much more complicated. It is not true, and it can be hard to come up with a counter-example by yourself.
In order to work through and appreciate the hints, you need a certain level of mathematical maturity. See the proof of Hint 1 as an example.
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Yes! I still have a really long way to go... I got a little hint of what you were doing but I couldn't understand everything. I can imagine graphically that those hints are true, but would be unable to prove them mathematically.
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I started this note thinking that it was easy / straightforward, given how a lot of people state it as if it was fact. But now you can tell your teacher that it's not true! You can even show him the counter examples!
As I explored further, I found that I had difficulty accounting for the "cancellation", and it slowly began to cross my mind that the statement might not be true. I tried to detail how I explored this topic, starting with the simplification of continuous functions which is well loved, and then moving on to discontinuous functions which are not well-understood. I tried to motivate / justify the counter-example, but this can be hard to do.
@Calvin Lin sir in claim 2 can you please explain how can the ratio of two numbers be an irrational number.........according to defination an irrational number can't be expressed as the ratio of two numbers
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1π=π
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Ohhh okk thanks
An irrational number cannot be expressed as the ratio of 2 integers.
Note that every number can be expressed as the ratio of two numbers, namely x=1x.