A protest again

What?

My humble request to the Brilliant staff to revert back the interface to what it was.

I just happened to open the B'ant website and what I saw was this!!!

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Markdown	Appears as
`italics` or `_italics_`	italics
`bold` or `__bold__`	bold
- bulleted - list	bulleted list
1. numbered 2. list	numbered list
Note: you must add a full line of space before and after lists for them to show up correctly
paragraph 1 paragraph 2	paragraph 1 paragraph 2
`[example link](https://brilliant.org)`	example link
`> This is a quote`	This is a quote
# I indented these lines # 4 spaces, and now they show # up as a code block. print "hello world"	# I indented these lines # 4 spaces, and now they show # up as a code block. print "hello world"

Math	Appears as
Remember to wrap math in `$` ... `$` or `\[` ... `\]` to ensure proper formatting.
`2 \times 3`	$2 \times 3$
`2^{34}`	$2^{34}$
`a_{i-1}`	$a_{i-1}$
`\frac{2}{3}`	$\frac{2}{3}$
`\sqrt{2}`	$\sqrt{2}$
`\sum_{i=1}^3`	$\sum_{i=1}^3$
`\sin \theta`	$\sin \theta$
`\boxed{123}`	$\boxed{123}$

Comments

I don't have much problem with the new brilliant. I just want it to be a bit more colorful and the fonts to be bolder. The rest of the changes are good.

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 9 months ago

I guess that would make it real better, isn't it? This is just too dull.

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 9 months ago

Yes. But I don't see the requirement of posting a note of protest. I could just have mentioned it on slack.

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 9 months ago

Thanks for your feedback @Mehul Arora. We aren't going to be reverting the entire change. Do you have any specific suggestions?

Silas Hundt Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Silas Hundt – Specifically, the colour scheme should be a little more bright. Also, The community button i.e. the link to the community should follow when we scroll. Otherwise we have to scroll all the way back up to go to the community.

Also, there is a bug I noticed. Edited notes aren't being edited. I mean, You may notice that the note says "what I was was this!" I changed it to "What I saw was this", but I doesn't seem to have been edited.

Thanks anyway. And sorry for the trouble caused. Kudos! to the brilliant staff.

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Mehul Arora –

Specifically, the colour scheme should be a little more bright.

Ok, we'll think about that more.

Also, The community button i.e. the link to the community should follow when we scroll. Otherwise we have to scroll all the way back up to go to the community.

Ok, we'll take that under consideration.

Also, there is a bug I noticed. Edited notes aren't being edited. I mean, You may notice that the note says "what I was was this!" I changed it to "What I saw was this", but I doesn't seem to have been edited.

I've tried and cannot reproduce this bug. Are you positive that you saved the note?

Thanks anyway. And sorry for the trouble caused.

I love trouble.

Silas Hundt Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Silas Hundt – I love confusion ;P

Nihar Mahajan - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Silas Hundt – Haha. I've tried again. maybe it was me who was careless xD

Thanks so much! May I delete this note now? :P

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Mehul Arora – You can do whatever you'd like!

Silas Hundt Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

Yes , more colourful and a little enlarged font will do.

Nihar Mahajan - 5 years, 9 months ago

Which color do u prefer for brilliant??

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Aditya Kumar – The colour of previous format was actually good.

Nihar Mahajan - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Nihar Mahajan – @Aditya Kumar You see? Atleast someone who supports me!

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Mehul Arora – I wanted the whole update to be reverted. I just Want its colour back.

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Nihar Mahajan – Yes the color was good. But I find this layout better.,

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Aditya Kumar and @Nihar Mahajan -- thanks for the feedback. We will take it under consideration.

Silas Hundt Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

Can u change the color to dark green as it was earlier?

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Aditya Kumar – @Aditya Kumar I think that we should give the B'ant staff some time to stabilize this interface. I agree I was the one who started this, but I guess they know better :)

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Aditya Kumar – What color?

Silas Hundt Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Silas Hundt – The colour brilliant initially had.

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 9 months ago

I agree it was a bit of a shock to experience the new format this morning, but now that I've spent 15 minutes familiarizing myself with it I find it quite acceptable. I found the previous format "friendlier" from an aesthetic point of view, but this format seems more precise and evolved. Any change requires an adjustment period, so I think we should give it a few days before making any substantive judgements.

@Calvin Lin One issue I've found thus far is that when I'm on the Community page and click on the "Following" feed the screen is "messed up". The entries don't start until I scroll down a page and a half and is offset to the left, so much so that portions of the entries are cut off. The "Everything" feed is fine, though.

Calvin edit: This issue has been fixed.

Brian Charlesworth - 5 years, 9 months ago

Just keep on solving and posting...

Pranjal Prashant - 5 years, 9 months ago

It seems most people are unhappy with the current User Interface of Brilliant. Well, @Silas Hundt let me use this version of Brilliant since the last two weeks. You'll be really shocked to know that, at the initial phase of this version, you can't even imagine how stupid this UI looked. Fortunately, the team worked on the issues, fixed a lot of issues and bugs, and then finally decided to continue with this almost perfected UI permanently, probably. I have experienced this UI for over two weeks, and I've synced with it perfectly. This UI is really very simple, and precise. You'll seriously love it after you get synced with it. Be Patient :P :D

By the way, the Brilliant Team has worked so hard to construct and fix this UI, for days! I don't think they'd revert back to the previous UI unless a major problem arises with the current UI!

Satyajit Mohanty - 5 years, 9 months ago

Thanks for the support. If you have any other feedback, please let us know!

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

I don't see any reason of changing the interface so very often. A person cannot familiarize with the format so quickly. The site should be much more concentrated to its primary objective i.e. to enhance problem solving skills. The new interface has shortened the font of the posts a lot and increased the font of "In response to ..." a lot which gives a wrong impression on the objectives of Brilliant.

@Calvin Lin

Kartik Sharma - 5 years, 9 months ago

Also Sir, how would I know if I have already solved a problem or not. There is no indicator coming.

Kartik Sharma - 5 years, 9 months ago

I've also requested @Silas Hundt a week ago to note this issue. I hope they'll add it in a few days $\ddot \smile$

Satyajit Mohanty - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Satyajit Mohanty – Oh! okay, I'll wait. BTW, there is a bug I saw. Whenever I scroll down on the problems page and open one, the scroll goes back to the top(in the background). Are you having this problem?

Kartik Sharma - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Kartik Sharma – Yeah! :/

Satyajit Mohanty - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Kartik Sharma – Yeah. I seem to have this problem too :/

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Kartik Sharma – This will be fixed in the next 24 hours or so.

Silas Hundt Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

Thanks for your feedback!

We change the interface to reflect what we have learnt about how people use Brilliant. We also update it to test various features. For example, you will notice that we now have a new "Featured wiki of the day", to highlight some of the great wiki pages that have arisen from the wiki collaboration parties.

We are still focused on enhancing your problem solving skills. The main feedback that we have received with regards to this is "How do I improve if I can't do these problems?". We had gone with "here are some basic problems in each skill to work on", as a way to ensure that they knew the basic material. However, that wasn't sufficient, and so we are improving the wiki writeups to provide relevant information for people to successfully problem solve.

Noted about the large bold font size. Our designer is aware of it.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

Calvin, as much talk and effort that's going into Brilliant.org wikis, I hardly get the chance to see them, unless I do a search for them. I like the new "Featured wiki...", and if I were up to me, I'd have another one of those magical filter toggles that lets me switch to a wiki universe where I can peruse them as I would peruse a daily news paper. Brilliant.org doesn't have to be either 1) just problems, or 2) schooling stuff. I would find it sad if nobody else is that interested in the wikis.

Michael Mendrin - 5 years, 9 months ago

I agree with Aditya Kumar, in that while the "new Brilliant.org" is now laid out more efficiently, which I like, easier to use and find things, with increased attention to wiki pages (which never seems enough!), what got lost was "color". Use of color is now subtle, found in tiny fonts, bullet points, and colored round miniatures that passes for avatars. And the pictures that go with posted problems and notes have become marginalized, so that I can't quickly locate a particular post any more, and it doesn't look so fun. The overall appearance of Brilliant.org has become something appropriate for specialists, like Scripta Mathematica--very serious and studious and also no longer in publication.

While I recognize that Brilliant.org is an ever-evolving project, you do need to have "flash" and some opportunity for fun. I would lose interest in Brilliant.org if it reminds me too much of going back to school that has serious and humorless overseers. I don't need to go through that again, I can afford not to.

Michael Mendrin - 5 years, 9 months ago

Thank you for this articulate and specific feedback. We are working on improvements to the icons and a few other issues right now that should help.

I'll add that we do want Brilliant to be "appropriate for specialists" as well as being fun. Perhaps this balance is impossible, but that won't stop us from trying :)

Silas Hundt Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

Silas, as I've repeatedly said before, it's all about the use of filters, i.e., we should be able to pick and choose what kind of reality we want. Isn't that how things are trending in life, anyway? Imagine if we had a toggle by which we could choose between "for serious minded specialists only" and "hey, math party time!" universes. And more, of course, why not.

Michael Mendrin - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Michael Mendrin – Yeah, that's perhaps the ideal. The issue with toggles is that they double the complexity of your software :(

Better, cheaper, and more likely to succeed to pursue balance.

Silas Hundt Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Silas Hundt – Oh I know, even though I like to think science fiction and futuristic stuff. I do sympathize, I was a programmer once.

Michael Mendrin - 5 years, 9 months ago

Thanks for reminding us about not being school. That's certainly not what we want!

This feedback is extremely helpful, and we are working it in.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

The new Brilliant.org give me more harder to comment. When i want to comment in the discussion, i must scroll down, scroll more that 100 comment. Plus, i want to recognize people in brilliant by their profile picture, now i can't remember ore that 30 member in here. The font making my eye really hard to read. Plus, i don't know was the comment that people post new or old

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 11 months ago

I think you should learn to adapt with different environments...!!!

Akhil Bansal - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Calvin Lin @Arron Kau @Silas Hundt @John Muradeli

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 9 months ago

What difference does it make although earlier one had better looks

Satvik Choudhary - 5 years, 9 months ago

Hi @Mehul Arora I'd be happy to respond if and when you provide substantive and specific feedback. Thanks!

Silas Hundt Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

Is this permanent???? NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lee Cho - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Lee Cho – Hi @Lee Cho -- do you have any substantive and specific feedback?

Silas Hundt Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

OOH HELL NOO. RISE BRILLIANT! OUR SITE IS BEING TAKEN FROM US BY THE TOTALITARIAN ADMINISTRATION CONTROL!

Boycott Brilliant ${}^{2}$ membership!

John M. - 5 years, 9 months ago

LOL

Silas Hundt Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Silas Hundt Lol my comments about "totalitarianism" are holding more water from your recent removal of my notes/pics. Come on it's a joke. No big deal - I already gave up on this website's interface. It's the people that matter - and while they're here, I'm here. But yeah all these restrictions ultimately result in my putting out less content - for as I explore my old posts, lots of unnecessary edits are made without my permission - for which I will not stand.

Do what you think is best. You know better.

John M. - 5 years, 9 months ago

Which restrictions?

Silas Hundt Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

John, for me your Brilliant.org posts are a lot of fun, and I would be sorry to either see you go or see you get so edited that it would be like trying to listen to a Bill Maher monologue aired at a public school--after edits. I think part of the problem is that Brilliant.org doesn't have 100% control over its moderators that are able to make such edits, nor have the time to review all the times such edits are made. I sense that there could be a tension between those that think Brilliant.org could be a place to have fun, and those that think it's no place for such fun. My advice to you is that at least understand that Brilliant.org is still evolving and trying to find the right mix. But you have at least one follower that is solidly in your corner.

Michael Mendrin - 5 years, 9 months ago

Math	Appears as
Remember to wrap math in `\(` ... `\)` or `\[` ... `\]` to ensure proper formatting.
`2 \times 3`	$2 \times 3$
`2^{34}`	$2^{34}$
`a_{i-1}`	$a_{i-1}$
`\frac{2}{3}`	$\frac{2}{3}$
`\sqrt{2}`	$\sqrt{2}$
`\sum_{i=1}^3`	$\sum_{i=1}^3$
`\sin \theta`	$\sin \theta$
`\boxed{123}`	$\boxed{123}$