Hi everyone, some time ago I was playing with Cardano's method to solve the general cubic equation. Then I discovered a new way to determine the same formula, altough is a little longer (also because I wanted to detail every step I do). It is very similar to the method of Lagrange, with some differences. That method finds u3+v3 and uv, while I find u and v directly, and I also determine an expression for the discriminant. Here it goes:
Let's start with the equation we want to solve: x3+bx2+cx+d=0 where b,c,d are complex numbers. Let its roots be x1,x2,x3. By Vieta's formulas we know that:
x1+x2+x3=−bx1x2+x1x3+x2x3=cx1x2x3=−d
Then, let Δ be the discriminant of the equation and w a primitive cube root of unity. Then, by the definition of discriminant we have:
Now, let m=x1x22+x2x32+x3x12 and n=x12x2+x22x3+x32x1. So, Δ=(m−n)2. Our first objective is to find m and n in terms of the coefficients. The trick is first find m+n and mn:
Now, our second objetive is try to find the roots in terms of the coefficients. Let's introduce u and v:
u=x1+x2w2+x3wv=x1+x2w+x3w2
Notice that uw=x1w+x2+x3w2 and vw=x1w+x2w2+x3, similarly uw2=x1w2+x2w+x3 and vw2=x1w2+x2+x3w. We can sum them in 9 different ways, but only 3 produce results independent of w, they are:
We obtained back u and v by taking cube root in both sides. We don't worry about the three possible cube roots, because we worked on that when we combined u and v to form the roots.
If we plug in everything, we obtain the messy formulas for the roots, this is one of them:
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I think the analogy would be that Your Approach vs Cardano's is like Chemistry vs Alchemy. Very nice!
This is the kind of thing that, although very long, I probably could still [eventually] remember how it could be done. Cardano's? I could never remember his way.
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I am tempted to appreciate your patience in typing this out with LATEX. Thank you !
This is great. The formula for x1 is already ginormous, I can't imagine how x2 and x3 will look like even after simplifying.
Now do the quartic formula ahahahaha
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For x2 and x3 we just have to add some w's. For the quartic formula there is a similar approach, let me try to do it without die trying.
I think the analogy would be that Your Approach vs Cardano's is like Chemistry vs Alchemy. Very nice!
This is the kind of thing that, although very long, I probably could still [eventually] remember how it could be done. Cardano's? I could never remember his way.
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Great job!
Nice work. Appreciate it.
Whoa !! You PLAYED well !!
A great thanks. This is very helpful :)
This is very cool!
i dont understand since i am still a highschool student
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We all are high school students bro :P