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what is the answer of the question? (100-100)/(10-10)

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Not exactly "undefined"; a more fitting term would be "indeterminate", because any number xx multiplied by zero is zero.

Francis Gerard Magtibay - 8 years, 3 months ago

How to make crazy work: Say xx is a number arbitrarily close to 1010 but not exactly 1010. We need to find limx10x2100x10=limx10x+10=20\lim_{x\to 10} \frac{x^2-100}{x-10}=\lim_{x\to 10} x+10=20

Abhishek De - 8 years, 3 months ago

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The main problem with this is that your expression is 'completely arbitrary'. For example, I could say that

limx1012x2+5x100x10=limx1012x+10=15. \lim_{x \rightarrow 10} \frac { \frac {1}{2} x^2 + 5x - 100}{ x-10} = \lim_{x \rightarrow 10} \frac {1}{2} x + 10 = 15.

Adapting this idea, you could arrive at any numerical answer you want. Hence, limits would be unable to resolve this issue, as it is highly dependent on the path that you arrive at the limit.

Note: A similar problem is to define 000^0 though limits. "Most of the time" we get 1, though if you take limx00x \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} 0^x, you will get 0.

Calvin Lin Staff - 8 years, 3 months ago

UNDEFINED

Shourya Pandey - 8 years, 3 months ago

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i wish mathematics had something better to offer :/

Harshit Kapur - 8 years, 3 months ago

as from what i learned the real and specific term for 0/0 is INDETERMINATE not undefined

Arlo Andallo - 8 years, 3 months ago

u can not divide anything by zero.

Nishanth Hegde - 8 years, 3 months ago

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Though on the *crazy side* {If that was what u meant by "interesting", (100100)/(1010)(100-100)/(10-10) = 10(1010)/(1010)10(10-10)/(10-10) = 1010 }

Nishanth Hegde - 8 years, 3 months ago

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no cancellation rule applies for zero

Akbarali Surani - 8 years, 3 months ago

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@Akbarali Surani Yes, I know..why isn't anyone noticing *"crazy side"* in my comment??

Nishanth Hegde - 8 years, 3 months ago

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@Nishanth Hegde I do. :)

Zi Song Yeoh - 8 years, 3 months ago

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@Zi Song Yeoh Thanks man! :)

Nishanth Hegde - 8 years, 3 months ago

Don't u know when we write [a(x-y)/(x-y)=a] it is given or we assume that, x is not equal to y...or (x-y)is not equal to zero....and only then we divide both the numerator and denominator by (x-y)...and we get =a as result...here we are seeing clearly (10-10)=0 so we cannot proceed with such a operation...and the result we would get be absolute wrong...

sayan chowdhury - 8 years, 3 months ago

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@Sayan Chowdhury Dude..chill! that was why i told "On the *crazy* side"

Nishanth Hegde - 8 years, 3 months ago

many possible answers are there.....like 10,20,undefuned,etc... depending on the person who solve it...

PRADEEP RAVICHANDRAN - 8 years, 3 months ago

answer is 20! may sound crazy. But as I go thru discussions, the fact x + y could be the answer is presented.

whenever you encounter 'zero upon zero' situation, it is of course 'indeterminate' - but it also means that is not the end. There is a real answer different from 'indeterminate'. You may arrive at it by suitable algebraic simplification / trigonometry simplification etc.

There are even a few theorems to work out the real answers

Raghunathan N. - 8 years, 3 months ago

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would u please state your ' a few theorem'...i do not know it...

sayan chaudhuri - 8 years, 3 months ago

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remember ....it is the problem only (100-100)/(10-10)=?...& not anything should be thought or taken into account....

sayan chaudhuri - 8 years, 3 months ago

The question is not (x^2-100)/(x-10) with x tending to zero. We can interpret (100-100)/(10-10) in different ways and get different answers as Calvin said. So the answer does not necessarily have to be 20. For eg. the question can be interpreted as lim x->10 [(x^3-9x^2-100)/(x-10)] which gives the answer as 120. So I think answer is undefined.

Ashwin Venkatraman - 8 years, 3 months ago

why is sayan C spamming :\

Soham Chanda - 8 years, 3 months ago

hi it's not possible, you cannot divide any real by 0, so dividing 0 by it's self is one of the craziest thing I saw, since a/0 might me greater than infinit, because that infinit times 0 is still 0, but I cannot guess what might be 0/0, since it could be 0235=00^{23-5}=0 , 0123=1/00^{1-23}=1/0 or even 000^{0} or 0^ any number ,we can accept the strictly positive ones, but not the the others , so this is particularly weird I think

but I guess you know all this stuff already ^^

Anas Elidrissi - 8 years, 3 months ago

it can be (10^{2}-10^{2})/(10-10) =(10+10)(10-10)/(10-10) =20

Manish Agarwal - 8 years, 3 months ago

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how can you cancel zero by zero?????

Namra Aziz - 8 years, 3 months ago

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i agree with that point

sayan chaudhuri - 8 years, 3 months ago

It can be 20 :

many possible answers are there.....like 10,20,undefined,etc... depending on the person who solve it...

https://brilliant.org/discussions/thread/an-interesting-question/#comment-a3f52161e92

Zi Song Yeoh - 8 years, 3 months ago

We can only cancel the term taking the supposition that it is not zero. So, if you want to cancel a term you will have to assume that it is not zero. So, in this case you cannot cancel the term my friend. so, your answer is totally wrong.

Brilliant Kumar - 8 years, 3 months ago

Don't u know when we write (x^2-y^2)/(x-y)=(x+y) ,it is given or we assume that, x is not equal to y...or (x-y)is not equal to zero....and only then we divide both the numerator and denominator by (x-y)...and we get =(x+y) as result,..here we are seeing clearly (10-10)=0 so we cannot proceed with such a operation...and the result we would get be absolute wrong

sayan chowdhury - 8 years, 3 months ago

Hey you can't divide by zero ..... there are plethora of mathematical contradictions and absurdities based on division by zero ....... If you divide by zero serious flaws creep into your logic leading to absolute fallacies

Jaydutt Kulkarni - 8 years, 3 months ago

Undefined. The division of 0 is not allowed in Maths since you can get a variety of answers. Since anything mutiplied by 0 is 0, 0 divided by 0 is everything. Like wise, nothing multiplied by 0 is not 0, hence any other number divided by 0 is just not possible

Amanda Hm - 8 years, 3 months ago

UNDEFINED

ayush Maheshwari - 8 years, 3 months ago

0/0

Veeramanoharan Rajamannar - 8 years, 3 months ago

(100-100)/(10-10) is nothing but indeterminate form ....which cannot be solved...we may solve it using limits

Harshit Khandelwal - 8 years, 3 months ago

and UNDEFINED tooo

Yatharth Pandey - 8 years, 3 months ago

It is Undetermined or Undefined.

Rukkesh Vinoth - 8 years, 3 months ago

indeterminate

Sri Krishna Priya Dhulipala - 8 years, 3 months ago

cant be determined

superman son - 8 years, 3 months ago

  1. XD

Daniel James Molina - 8 years, 3 months ago

use limit bro

Ahmad Widardi - 8 years, 3 months ago

0

Yatharth Pandey - 8 years, 3 months ago

10(10-10)/(10-10) = 10

Kim Joshua Desposado - 8 years, 3 months ago
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