Electricity, Magnetism and Madness
I am extremely bad at electricity , magnetism and the related stuff. I would greatly appreciate If someone could suggest resources for solving complex equivalent/effective resistance problems and also some problems which involve magnetic effect of current like this one- click here..... The problem is back at school we're encouraged to do only simple problems and if we come up with tougher ones we're discouraged from doing them. But ofcourse only these kinds of problems come-up in olympiads... so i would kindly request y'all to suggest webpages/resources/books to hone my skills on these topics.... Thanks PLEASE SUGGEST USEFUL WEBSITES/BOOKS WHICH ARE NON-CALCULUS BASED PREFERABLY....ITS FINE IF THEY'RE CALCULUS BASED TOO. PLEASE SUGGEST WEBSITES WHICH ARE A SOURCE OF GOOD MATERIAL RELATING TO THIS TOPIC
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Krishna Ar
7 years, 1 month ago
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halliday resinik krane vol 1 and 2 are the best to tackle such problems
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Ty
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what.....
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He means "thank you".
Yes, I meant thanks for commenting
can u plz tell its solution manual
that's how toppers are..... they are passionately curious
Click here This is seriously nice! And you could use problem sets from the scholar version of the same: clik here. Using halliday resnick walker's 8th edition of Fundamentals of physics as a simultaneous read might also work well! Luck!
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Thanks. :)... But that's too advanced for a person who has just turned 14. Maybe once I complete calculus , I could take to them. But those were awesome citations
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With all these prodigies on this site, it's quite challenging for a late-starter like myself to give sane answers! But yeah, they are too awesome! :P And good luck! Always experiment with electricity and magnetism to get them embedded into your brains! :)
Solve the numericals of finish reference as much you can
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I didnt quite understand your reply
Taking your age into consideration I think, you can solve such examples logically. There is no need to learn the theoretical part right now. Once you are 17, you will thoroughly understand this topic.
If you are quite passionate about physics, you can refer to videos on Youtube. When I was your age I found this book Chemical Chaos quite interesting. The same publication have also published a book on physics (I don't have its name right now but will provide as soon as possible).
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I like your curiosity :)
I'm sorry, but definitely there is the need to learn them theoretically. Logically I'm sure one can't solve an unbalanced Wheatstone bridge circuit. Maybe, what you mean is that I need to understand it using calculus ( which is the way to learn physics ), if that's what you mean.... then you're right. But the drawback in CBS curriculum is that concepts are introduced with very shallow depth in early stages and later at great depths...which is disappointing.. to give an example, in 11th std, without even introducing calculus , equations of motion are derived using integral calculus... hope you get me
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I understand what you want to say there. I personally feel that you should strengthen your base right now. You should thoroughly understand how different things depend on each other. Learning Biot Savart's law or Gauss law right now might overburden you. Also as mentioned, you do not have a good support from your tutors. A topic like Electricity and magnetism needs deep understanding and a good introduction to the topic might help. However you may take the advice you find right.
Your point about the CBS curriculum: If you join a good IIT coaching institute then the tutors there will help you to understand every topic. I too could not solve such problems at your age (in fact till 10th). Later, with the support of my institute I learnt this art of problem solving. Also you do not have to bother about 11th std when you are preparing for IIT. So do not worry.
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I must say, your research on the Physics books available is quite extensive! (Keep up the good work!) They do depend a lot on Calculus. Therefore I will not refer any of these books right now.
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Unfortunately, I don't attend any coaching institute. And I don't rather consider it a drawback as I 've been able to prove myself without them. Currently I'm working on pre-calculus post which hopefully I could take up calculus and then magically (:P) bridge the gap in physics. BTW, which coaching class do you attend?
@Krishna Ar, you are absolutely correct. I refer these books - Principles of Physics (Halliday-Resnick) & Concepts of Physics (H.C. Verma). You can google them.
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Yeah I use physics( HC. verma) it is a great book
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@Mardokay Mosazghi, is it available in the US? Impossible!
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I agree with you,I think there is secret lies beneath it....
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What secret...?
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Secret -How @Mardokay Mosazghi get HC Verma in US.Is it possible?
OMG!!! these books at 15!!!
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The user on Brilliant which I feel is the most similar to me in maths and science is you, Krishna, we have soooo many things in common, except the huge difference in IMO rank, of course : (
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Seriously? ;) Why? Care to elaborate?
For understanding these books, a deep knowledge of calculus is required. So did u know calculus before using them? WHEN DID U START USING THEM? WHEN DID U LEARN CALCULUS?
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@Krishna Ar, well, deep is not the right word. In H.C. Verma, he gives a chapter (Ch.2 Physics & Mathematics) on vectors & calculus & he says this is the only knowledge you require. He gives just the transformation formulae. Try to study those with full understanding & that should be fine.
I started using those at 15. I was provoked when I saw the proforma for NSEA & NSEP. So, I made it a point to appear next year with full preparation. (By the way, I appeared in 10th std. too but I scored really low).
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So you didn't learn calculus separately? (just asking.....)
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@Krishna Ar, No!
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OKay...I didnt really get what you said but I assume that you didnt learn calculus separately ( from books other than HCV). If thats true, then you're amazing for the simple reason you're a level 4 in it without proper practice..:)
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@Krishna Ar yeah. Even I am amazed at myself (your assumption is perfectly true)!
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Hi! @Ameya Salankar - Is H.C.Verma volume two ( i think, its the one containing E-M stuff) easy to understand? Could I get to it without doing volume 1 fully/ calculus? Your response would be appreciated.
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Well, I would go against the idea @Krishna Ar. Even I had trouble understanding it. That's why. I am still level 1 in E & M. My Luck. Okay, you can still do it if you have a person with you who is an expert. But basic calculus is really necessary, I tell you.
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Hmmm... yes. E&M is quite abstract. Perhaps I must do calculus very soon, else I would land myself in a pool of hot water :P
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It isn't abs...hey! you added me on G+! Can you come on hangouts now?
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Sure!
Happy sixteenth! ;) :D
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@Krishna Ar, Thanks! How did you know that it's my birthday?
yeah, electricity and magnetism is a difficult one, I am bad at that as well(actually I am bad at everything) I would tell you that wait till school explains you that(or if the school can)
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Which school , DPS?....Btw, at present, I know much more than what the school would possibly teach me, but yet I want to learn more as learning is never ending :P
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actually, i am in rotary BTW, in the brackets, I have written some very notable points and even criticized the schools.....
I also want to learn a lot and finding nothing helpful as far as em is concerned.. Also, the quote is a little bit too common and i have become obsessed with it. hey, do you take tuition or some coaching centers ?
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Which bracket are you talking about? No, I dont attend any coaching, what about you?
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(or if the school can) This was sarcastic as it was attacking the schools because I know that schools never explain what we want. I can understand that this bracket meant to say something else but it is reflecting a little bit different.
(ur trademark)BTW, I also don't attend coaching and a little bit confused about it.
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One should make a note on "Is coaching imp and its alternatives to have a good life"
I cannot make as I am not so famous... :(
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True that!
Sorry, yet again....what do you mean by (ur trademark) ?
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I suppose that "'BTW' or By the Way" is your 'trademark' because as far as I have observed, you have used it in almost all the comments
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Hey Krish! I have asked Gabriel Merces to make a note on E and M and he will try to make a set on the same in the near future. Hope that this may help in solving these problems!
D C pandey physics IV...........
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Hmmmm..... good reply, I would say. But again, isn't that book an IIT-level book?
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But for beginners ,,its a good conceptual book ,,,good theory discussion and good approach to problem solving........
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Okay...thanks :)
Kaboobly Doo! It says JEE in the title
Check website HOWSTUFFWORKS or refer NCERT EBOOKS .
HOW YOU CAN TALK TO OTHERS MY FRIEND ?
Buy ahrihant book, it's good, you might get an idea
read the book of lakhmir singh.
rasnick and haliday is best book
first refer NCERT ,bcz the give us an idea about the topics. Then try books of H.C Verma. By now you will have a good idea about the topics. Then refer university physics/ halliday&resnick. Thats upto your choice.
FOR MAGNETISM STUDY THE MATERIAL SCIENCE IN ENG IN THIS PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE MAGNETIC MATERIALS AND PROPERTIES
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Is it the title of a book? If so , could you be more clear?
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MATERIAL SCIENCE BY ARMUGUM
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IT IS VERY NICE BOOK I LIKE IT
in which school r u
You may consider HC VERMA'S CONCEPTS OF PHYSICS OR IRODOV
GO FOR ELECTRICITY AND MAGNETISM BY ''''D.C.PANDEY FOR JEE...IT STARTS FROM BEGINING AND REACHES A GOOD HIEGHT....SO GOOD LUCK
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Ok :)
Hello You may like the website physics galaxy here
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Thanks :)
Also see for b.m.sharma the no. And variety of problems is awesome
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Ok :)
I ASK A QUESTION TO YOU YOU DIDN'T REPLY BUT OF COURSE A GENERAL QUESTION LEADS YOU TO INCREASE YOUR INTEREST TO WORDS electricity IF U ANSWER TO IT
Alexander in electric circuits is full version of what yoy want
You can also go for Feynman Lectures in physics.
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Sorry, that's for advanced level studies.
hmmmm so, what can i do i am also a very bad student :p