Find n if 2^200 - 31.2^192 + 2^n is a perfect square

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n = 198

Naishad Parikh - 8 years, 5 months ago

Here is the full solution to this problem.

i) if n=192n = 192,

Then we have 2192(226)2^{192}(226), which is clearly not a perfect square.

ii) if n>192n > 192,

Then since 21922^{192} is a perfect square, and every term is greater than 21922^{192}, dividing by 21922^{192} yields

225+2n192225 + 2^{n - 192}, which must also be a perfect square.

Let 225+2n192=k2225 + 2^{n - 192} = k^{2},

Then 2n192=(k+15)(k15)2^{n - 192} = (k + 15)(k - 15).

Note that both factors must be powers of two and their difference is 3030.

Note that 2625=25>302^{6} - 2^{5} = 2^{5} > 30, so both factors must be less than 262^{6}

By considering all cases, we get only 30=252130 = 2^{5} - 2^{1} works.

And so we get k+15=32,k15=2k + 15 = 32, k - 15 = 2, so 2n192=322=262^{n - 192} = 32\cdot 2 = 2^{6} and thus n=198n = 198.

iii) if n<192n < 192

2200312192+2n=2n(2200n312192n+1)2^{200} - 31\cdot 2^{192} + 2^{n} = 2^{n}(2^{200 - n} - 31\cdot 2^{192 - n} + 1)

Note that the factor in the bracket is odd

And so if nn is odd, then 2n2^{n} is not a perfect square and so the factor in the bracket must be even, contradiction.

So nn is even.

Then 2n2^{n} is a perfect square.

So 2200n312192n+12^{200 - n} - 31\cdot 2^{192 - n} + 1 is a perfect square.

2200n312192n+1=(2192n(152))+12^{200 - n} - 31\cdot 2^{192 - n} + 1 = (2^{192 - n}(15^{2})) + 1

Since nn is even, 192n192 - n is also even.

So 2192n2^{192 - n} is a perfect square.

And so 2200n312192n+12^{200 - n} - 31\cdot 2^{192 - n} + 1 is not a perfect square since it is one more than a perfect square.

Note : 2192n02^{192 - n} \ne 0

Zi Song Yeoh - 8 years, 5 months ago

So n=198n = \boxed{198} is the only solution to the problem

Zi Song Yeoh - 8 years, 5 months ago

friends i hope the answer would be 196...is it correct,i dont have its answer.....

patel kishan - 8 years, 5 months ago

You are saying n=196 n=196 then it that case

2192(2831+24) 2^{192}(2^8 - 31 + 2^4) since 2192 2^{192} is a square , 25631+16 256 - 31 +16 should be s square but since it is not a perfect square , this means that n=196 n=196 is not the answer :

now consider three cases : n>192,n=192,n<192 n>192 ,n= 192 , n < 192 and do case chase you will land up with

n=198 \boxed{n=198} is the only solution

Shivang Jindal - 8 years, 5 months ago

Naishad P. - n=198n = 198 is indeed correct. Because 2192(2831+26)=21921722^{192}(2^8 - 31 + 2^6) = 2^{192}\cdot 17^2 is a perfect square.

Zi Song Yeoh - 8 years, 5 months ago

Sorry i am weak at maths,please tell me Then since 2^192 is a perfect square, and every term is greater than 2^192 , dividing by yields.......why you only divide the whole term by 2^192...........? and why divide only..... please help me friends.....

patel kishan - 8 years, 5 months ago

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patel kishan - 8 years, 5 months ago

I have stopped writing it now :( link : www.advancemaths.wordpress.com

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Shivang Jindal - 8 years, 5 months ago

Your blog is awesome,why do you stop writing it,please if you get some good questions,then please send it to me...by the way, how did you become so good in maths.....please share it with me pleaseeeee

patel kishan - 8 years, 5 months ago

Zi Song, that's correct, albeit extremely lengthy. Can you shorten it to just a few lines? I believe that you all you need is 225×2192+2n=k2 225 \times 2^{192} + 2^n = k^2 , and that there is a unique solution (a,b) (a,b) to 2a2b=c 2^a - 2^b = c , for any integer cc. You explicitly used the first idea, and implicitly used the second idea in "By considering all cases ...".

Calvin Lin Staff - 8 years, 5 months ago

@Samuel, the reason is because you entered the brackets as \ [ code \ ], instead of \ ( code \ ) . The former will make each equation into a line, the latter will make each equation part of your sentence. If you look at the math formatting guide, all of the brackets are \ ( \ ). This is similar to the difference between $ $ code $ $, and $ code $ in other Latex compilers. (spaces suitably removed).

Calvin Lin Staff - 8 years, 5 months ago

So since it's not specified that the solution has to be an integer, I came up with this:

[note: let me apologize ahead of time for the formatting of this comment. For some reason the LaTeX\LaTeX processor on Brilliant is giving all of my math a new line (as above).]

220031×2192+2n=2^{200}-31 \times 2^{192}+2^{n}= 2184(21631×28+2n184)2^{184}(2^{16}-31 \times 2^{8}+2^{n-184})

Letting a=28a=2^{8} we have

2184(a231×a+2n184)2^{184}(a^{2}-31 \times a+2^{n-184})

Since 2^184 is a perfect square, all we need to show is that a231×a+2n184a^{2}-31 \times a+2^{n-184} is a square. However, note that it does not need to be the square of an integer; it suffices to be an integer divided by an even power of 2 less than or equal to 184 (I know this is wordy. Don't think about it too much now because it will make sense in context later.)

We now use the identity that (ac)2=a22ac+c2(a-c)^{2}=a^{2}-2ac+c^2. Therefore when 2n184=(312)22^{n-184}=(\frac{31}{2})^{2}, our quantity is a square. Now, we only need to solve a one-variable equation:

2n184=(312)22^{n-184}=(\frac{31}{2})^{2} 222n184=9312^{2}2^{n-184}=931 2n182=9312^{n-182}=931 n182=log2931n-182=\log_2 931 n=log2931+182n=log_2 931+182

This makes 2163128+2n184=23136142^{16}-31 \cdot 2^{8}+2^{n-184}=\frac{231361}{4} Alas! We've made the square of 28312=48122^{8}-\frac{31}{2}=\frac{481}{2} which is not an integer! But wait! We get lucky! When multiplying it by 2^184, it corrects, and we get an integer with an integral square root!

And indeed, according to my calculator 220031×2192+2n\sqrt{2^{200}-31 \times 2^{192}+2^{n}} for n=log2931+182n=\log_2 931+182 is equal to 1190898317792535824452957503488, an integer!!!!! Thus, we are done.

Samuel Marks - 8 years, 5 months ago
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