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1) An arrangement of pulley block system is shown above. The bigger block has mass \(10\) kg and smaller block has mass \(m\) kg. The coefficient of friction between the blocks is \(0.1\). and the coefficient of friction between the block and the ground is \(0.4\). Find the maximum value of \(m\) in kg so that the arrangement is in equilibrium.

2) A rope of length LL and mass MM is being pulled on a rough horizontal floor by a constant horizontal force F=MgF=Mg. The force is acting at one end of the rope in the same direction as the length of the rope. The coefficient of kinetic friction between rope and floor is 12\frac{1}{2}. Then the tension at the mid point of the rope is

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Kushal Patankar - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Saurabh Patil - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Thanks for the the sourabh ¨\ddot \smile

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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No, actually don't need to .

Saurabh Patil - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Saurabh Patil Actually the friction force heredosen't at all act as variable force and as we draw a FBD we see no variable force acting on the system (rope+earth)

Saurabh Patil - 6 years, 1 month ago

if it was asked to find the tension at any distance xx then we have integrate?? plz reply

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

About the second problem may i speak something?

Saurabh Patil - 6 years, 1 month ago

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yes surely

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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how do i post an image? I have solved the second problem

Saurabh Patil - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Saurabh Patil Dont know may be satvik knows

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Tanishq Varshney First upload the picture on imgur. And then type this --

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satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Satvik Pandey Thanks for telling the steps to upload image bro....!!!!.

Saurabh Patil - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Saurabh Patil You are welcome! :)

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

@satvik pandey @Kushal Patankar @Abhineet Nayyar plz post a solution

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

If you know the answer then please post it.

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

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ok answer are 1) 2.5 kg and 2) Mg2\frac{Mg}{2}

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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I got 1st one. Wait I am posting. :)

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

Thank you guyz means a lot.

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Its our pleasure Right satvik pandey ???!!!

Saurabh Patil - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Yeah! sure!

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

Hey check out this problem

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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I got that. I solved it by using concept of pseudo force.

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

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yup i also did that using the concept of pseudo force , u should now try this one

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Tanishq Varshney I haven't studied Oscillations till now. :(

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

DO reply if u liked the problem.

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Tanishq Varshney I like your problems! :)

I recently saw your this problem. Is μ \mu coefficient of friction between A and B or B and C? Is block A fixed or movable? ??

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

Looks like I m late

Kushal Patankar - 6 years, 1 month ago

Are you guys fine? A massive earthquake has been experienced in large parts of Northern India.

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

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I got up late in the morning so i don't have any idea of the tremors. XD

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Did you sleep till 12 noon? :P

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Satvik Pandey nope Till 11. :P

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Tanishq Varshney The Earthquake was experienced at 11:46 AM. I was going through Saurabh's solution at that time.

I found a method to solve that question by using calculus.

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Satvik Pandey Do we really need to solve that question using calculus when we can use the newton laws directly??

Saurabh Patil - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Saurabh Patil Hey @Saurabh Patil and @satvik pandey can i have ur views on this

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Tanishq Varshney Sorry bro, I am not very good in Maths. :(

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

@Saurabh Patil We can use Newton's Law directly. There is no problem. It's just another way of solving the same question.

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Applying Newton's law on Δy \Delta y we get--

T(y)T(y+Δy)μMLΔy=MLΔyg2T(y)-T(y+\Delta y)-\mu \frac { M }{ L } \Delta y=\frac { M }{ L } \Delta y\frac { g }{ 2 }

limΔy0T(y+Δy)T(y)Δy=MgLlim\quad \Delta y\rightarrow 0\frac { T(y+\Delta y)-T(y) }{ \Delta y } =-\frac { Mg }{ L }

dT(y)dy=MgL\frac { dT(y) }{ dy } =-\frac { Mg }{ L }

T(0)T(L/2)dT(y)=0L/2MgL\int _{ T(0) }^{ T(L/2) }{ dT(y) } =\int _{ 0 }^{ L/2 }{ -\frac { Mg }{ L } } dy

T(0)=MgT(0)=Mg

So T(L2)T(0)=Mg2T\left( \frac { L }{ 2 } \right) -T(0)=-\frac { Mg }{ 2 }

On putting the value of T(0)T(0)

we get T(L2)=Mg2T\left( \frac { L }{ 2 } \right) =\frac { Mg }{ 2 }

But I must say that Saurabh's method is better that this.

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

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From the FBD of block of mass mm

The block will be at rest if

T+f2=mgT+f_{2}=mg

But there is a horizontal force acting on the block. If the block has to be at rest then N=0N=0 So f2=0f_{2}=0

So T=mgT=mg

Now only horizontal force acting on block of mass MM is f1f_{1} and TT

So T=f1T=f_{1}

So mg=f1mg=f_{1}

As the friction is static so it can have variable magnitude. The value of m will be maximum when f1f_{1} is maximum. And the limiting value of f1 is μN0\mu N_{0}. No force is acting in vertical direction other than Normal reaction from ground and Mg. So N0=MgN_{0}=Mg

So the value of m will be maximum when mg=μMgmg=\mu Mg. Just put the values. You will get the answer. :)

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

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yup i missed that thing that no horizontal force will act on the the block m , i ended up on thinking how to find NN, any ways thanx a lot, what about the second

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

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I am trying second one. :)

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago

but u get 4kg from here but the answer is 2.5 kg

Tanishq Varshney - 6 years, 1 month ago

Hi satvik, You missed two forces i.e. tension forces on the 10 kg block, one downward and other rightwards . They are acting on clamped pulley, and should be included in fbd, because clamped pulley is part of 10kg mass.

Kushal Patankar - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Hi Kushal. Thanks for pointing the mistake. I made a blunder mistake is a hurry. :( Also I substituted the wrong value of μ=1/4\mu=1/4 that's why the the answer came out to be 2.5 kg. :(

satvik pandey - 6 years, 1 month ago
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